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What difficulty will Zoro v. SSJ2 Sommers be?


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I think he’ll cut Gram to show a major AP boost (otherwise this whole fight is ridiculously absurd), but overall I agree.

If Oda knew how to write the fight we would’ve gotten a CoO PU in this arc instead of rehashing the same idea by forcing Zoro’s IQ into the negatives.
The fight is absurd.

DD is no different from what he's doing at the end of the chapter... y know the one that accidentally chopped Sommers arm and stopped it from regenerating.

DD was only stopped cuz Gram is a mythical sword capable of deflecting anything (Imu used it to swat away Loki's lightning attack as well).
Not because trash like Sommers is some super powerful dude who casually swats away ultimate techniques of Zoro.

If Sommers was actually on that level, he wouldn't get bullied left right and centre for 2 chapters in a row as Zoro slowly grows more braincells than 3.
 
Although this new plot makes Zoro dumb, it helps to clear up the King fight/Egghead inconsistencies

During the King fight, Zoro thought King was invincible when his flames are on because he was literally doing no damage to him. He only started doing damage after he unconsciously unlocked adcoc

And during Egghead he said the Seraphims were virtually invincible with flame on because of his lack of knowledge in adcoc

So basically, flame on King and the Seraphims are still vulnerable to adcoc attacks

king was scared to allow zoro get free hits on him during when his flames are on
 
everyone says Oda switched Chicken Wings opponents this arc and Sommers should have fought Sanji (obviously)

but can someone explain to me how Killingham was supposed to be a Zoro opponent?

what does Zoro gain from fighting him that he doesn't already get from Sommers (both regen merchants)

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Wb doesn’t even use his df against Roger tho and they both have equal haki.
As of we've seen i kinda agree on that.
But Full Fight WB gotta unleash All his power including Haki and DF against Roger.
If not that is some Disrespect on Roger and it dehypes him as the Pirate King.
I believe WB only 1 or worse case 2 level below Roger.
And to Match it he had Powerful DF which possibly be awakened.
 
Yea Sommers just isn’t it, I’m sure this will look cool when it’s Animated but I don’t see why Sommers is the opponent for Zoro. Zoro needs to have cool/edgy opponents . Win or Lose I truly believe Shamrock should have been his fight . Would’ve been a great opportunity for growth.
 
As of we've seen i kinda agree on that.
But Full Fight WB gotta unleash All his power including Haki and DF against Roger.
If not that is some Disrespect on Roger and it dehypes him as the Pirate King.
I believe WB only 1 or worse case 2 level below Roger.
And to Match it he had Powerful DF which possibly be awakened.
I don’t think Roger was using his fp.

He should’ve been able to easily destroy the island he was fighting on if so given his fruit aoe and dc.
 
Basically.... Zoro got zero powerups this arc.

He already had the ability, which was accidentally unlocked when he let all of his haki flow out with Enma.
He didn't know what it was, he didn't realize what he was doing, nor did he understand how to use it at will.

The entire struggle with Sommers, is to simply figure out for oneself about how exactly to cut an onion with a knife... when your knife is already sharp enough and you have knowledge on how to cut the onion.

All he needed was "Aha this is Conquerors Haki" after bullying Sommers for a chapter or two without realizing what tool in his toolbox to use.

@nik87 @Rurushu @Garps tekkai etc,.
Yea see where you are coming from, bro, but "control" will lay the foundation for everything that follows I think- (critical) haki mass, casual control within cling clangs, fodder nuke outside of 1on1s.

We even see in this chap that he projects - in Mihawk's words - his own self out by wifi cutting Sommer's arm off as it seems.

Before it was either KoH or base Zoro basically, now it's KoH and/or aCoC base Zoro I think.
We also need to consider the stamina soak that prolly comes with KoH.

I want to see where Oda takes it from here in the context of KoH & normal CoC coating. Hopefully that gets clearly communicated by Zoro at some point.
 
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