Spoiler One Piece Chapter Spoiler 1194 Spoilers Discussion
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I think most people distinguish Sommers as Base Sommers, Omen Sommers and SSJ2 Sommers (with Gram) so thats what I was using.
I understand the regen merchant being used as damage takers but when it comes to fighting capability for example CQC we saw King pushing Zoro back even though King also had the regen merchant type thing. Lucci was clashing but he wasnt getting overwhelmed like Sommers here got.
Bro, I get the Chinjao part but give me one panel of any Admiral showing basic CoC or ACoC. For Mihawk we have him teaching Zoro about CoC, his student who wants to surpass him has ACoC, his rival Yonko Shanks has ACoC so Mihawk being above them without having some unknown ability or DF etc should also have ACoC as a minimum.
We saw Akainu in MF show a lot of stuff but no CoC showing but we can say that neither Boa, nor Doflamingo, nor Garp or Sengoku or WB or Shanks or Mihawk did. In Wano GB had the opportunity to show off CoC against Shanks but he did not. In Beehive Aokiji had the opportunity against Garp but he did not, in Egghead Kizaru had the opportunity against Luffy but he did not (instead we got the Gorosei/Warcury). We dont have so much showing for Mihawk or Dragon.
I understand the regen merchant being used as damage takers but when it comes to fighting capability for example CQC we saw King pushing Zoro back even though King also had the regen merchant type thing. Lucci was clashing but he wasnt getting overwhelmed like Sommers here got.
Bro, I get the Chinjao part but give me one panel of any Admiral showing basic CoC or ACoC. For Mihawk we have him teaching Zoro about CoC, his student who wants to surpass him has ACoC, his rival Yonko Shanks has ACoC so Mihawk being above them without having some unknown ability or DF etc should also have ACoC as a minimum.
We saw Akainu in MF show a lot of stuff but no CoC showing but we can say that neither Boa, nor Doflamingo, nor Garp or Sengoku or WB or Shanks or Mihawk did. In Wano GB had the opportunity to show off CoC against Shanks but he did not. In Beehive Aokiji had the opportunity against Garp but he did not, in Egghead Kizaru had the opportunity against Luffy but he did not (instead we got the Gorosei/Warcury). We dont have so much showing for Mihawk or Dragon.
After reading through the chapter with some decent translations to go along with it I actually like it more than I did initially
Zoro isn’t struggling as much as I’d like in what should be an arc defining fight but Oda letting us into Zoro’s head while he grapples with what it means to wield conqueror’s haki is great
I only have one semi major complaint
I’m a little confused with Oda’s pacing choice this chapter. Throughout the entire chapter Oda does nothing but shove in our faces that Sommers isn’t even close to Zoro’s level (pre mastery of his conqueror’s)
The chapter ends with Zoro intentionally wielding conqueror’s for (probably) the first time, right? Why not have the chapter end with Zoro defeating him?
There shouldn’t be much of a fight past this point. It just feels weird with Zoro putting his bandana on as well, which usually takes place in the middle or latter half of an ongoing confrontation
Idk maybe it’s cause this chapter has a really low page count so Oda didn’t have enough room to fit it in
Zoro isn’t struggling as much as I’d like in what should be an arc defining fight but Oda letting us into Zoro’s head while he grapples with what it means to wield conqueror’s haki is great
I only have one semi major complaint
I’m a little confused with Oda’s pacing choice this chapter. Throughout the entire chapter Oda does nothing but shove in our faces that Sommers isn’t even close to Zoro’s level (pre mastery of his conqueror’s)
The chapter ends with Zoro intentionally wielding conqueror’s for (probably) the first time, right? Why not have the chapter end with Zoro defeating him?
There shouldn’t be much of a fight past this point. It just feels weird with Zoro putting his bandana on as well, which usually takes place in the middle or latter half of an ongoing confrontation
Idk maybe it’s cause this chapter has a really low page count so Oda didn’t have enough room to fit it in
I wouldn't say Admiral were humiliated since its not their dedicated chapter yet
But yea, they are desperate
I understand that tho cuz its too NIKA and M3 oriented
The thing is its funny that they switches up to Loki
Now they act Mihawk is Top Tier after years of slander
But yea, they are desperate
I understand that tho cuz its too NIKA and M3 oriented
The thing is its funny that they switches up to Loki
Now they act Mihawk is Top Tier after years of slander
Akainu in MF
Aokiji in Beehive
Kizaru in Egghead
Since they learned how important haki is they want ACoC too and the black blade. Even though they used to ridicule this. Look at how they ridicule Kaido and his statement about haki. They cope so bad that they take words of a teeange Kaido (him wanting a DF after watching WB) over the words of the more experienced 59 year Kaido.
So next chapter ends with zoro finishing Sommers and Sanji finishing killingham. Then chapter after that is Loki giving it his all and Luffy somehow recovers again because he has been taking the most L's against Imu. Then Imu whom probably isnt KO'd or defeated returns to Mariejois because he has sustained a lot of damage and his time was running out in the form he was in the lower world with.
Because he want to play with the chapters numbers:
194: Zoro had a flashback with Koshiro about cutting steel
1194 : Zoro had a flashback about CoC
195: Zoro defeated Mr.1 by cutting steel for the first time
1195 : Zoro will defeat Sommers by using AdvCoC willingly.
This fetish is the reason why some chapters are just fillers
194: Zoro had a flashback with Koshiro about cutting steel
1194 : Zoro had a flashback about CoC
195: Zoro defeated Mr.1 by cutting steel for the first time
1195 : Zoro will defeat Sommers by using AdvCoC willingly.
This fetish is the reason why some chapters are just fillers
Not really
All they have to do is use the same argument that they always used to prove Sanji was gonna get CoC despite all the doubt: plot
You need mastery over ACoC to beat a Holy Knight and Sanji has to beat a Holy Knight
I think it’ll partially be nonsense (which is why he should’ve unlocked it much earlier) but I can almost guarantee that Sanji’s control over it will be good enough pretty quickly, despite the lack of training
All they have to do is use the same argument that they always used to prove Sanji was gonna get CoC despite all the doubt: plot
You need mastery over ACoC to beat a Holy Knight and Sanji has to beat a Holy Knight
I think it’ll partially be nonsense (which is why he should’ve unlocked it much earlier) but I can almost guarantee that Sanji’s control over it will be good enough pretty quickly, despite the lack of training
WorstGenHQ on X: "#ONEPIECE1194 I find this theory very interesting. In movie Red, Shanks was able to envelop his sword in flames. What if every instance of Conqueror's Haki enhances specific attributes that reflect the user's will? If this theory turns out to be true, I could imagine https://t.co/yWmu2QqGkn" / X
@nik87 @GrandmasterChef Zonji @mly90 @Shimotsuki Fenaker @HA001 we getting the new cope that Shanks special CoC ability disqualifies him from being a swordsman or puts him above Mihawk.
@nik87 @GrandmasterChef Zonji @mly90 @Shimotsuki Fenaker @HA001 we getting the new cope that Shanks special CoC ability disqualifies him from being a swordsman or puts him above Mihawk.
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