Powers & Abilities What is this Disney ass “Sense of self” nonsense?
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Sure. But how is a cosplayer who denies her self in favor of being someone else still get CoC?
"It’s important to note, that one’s sense of self could be completely delusional and still qualify as a strong sense of self. Yamato thinks he’s Oden, Loki thinks he’s Nika. To be a conqueror is to hold on to a sense of self that normal people find insane. "
look at sanji and koby their sense of self lies in their kindness and honesty respectively.
sanjis kindness is unshakeable ( people pretend it was a retcon but it isnt being nice and being kind are two different things
so what he said to jinbe doesnt make him unkind)
and he was being logical in punk hazard
Are you dumb or do you not understand how CoC strength works. Zoro himself is stronger because of the extreme situation he was put in King fight of fighting a 1st commander while getting his life drained. Zoro then mastered Enma which literally was the point of that fight mastering Enma. Which was literally spelled out to you when he does that he getting stronger. Before that moment he did not master Enma. When the person gets stronger your CoC gets stronger. Thats like saying Shanks is the same strength at 25 has he is now cause he was using ACoC and using ACoC now. Learn how to read
Maybe because Oden didn't have the same issues of self belief as Zoro.
Oden believed himself to be a top dog from the start and probably had no mental block regarding any kind of power being reserved to a certain class of people unlike Zoro.
We have no idea if Enma was even testing Oden like it did Zoro, Zoro even had that line asking if Oden could always use Enma as if it was as light as a feather.
If Enma wasn't testing Oden because he never had mental blocks, then Oden never needed to go all out to tap into his Coc which he already had manifested from childhood.
Oden believed himself to be a top dog from the start and probably had no mental block regarding any kind of power being reserved to a certain class of people unlike Zoro.
We have no idea if Enma was even testing Oden like it did Zoro, Zoro even had that line asking if Oden could always use Enma as if it was as light as a feather.
If Enma wasn't testing Oden because he never had mental blocks, then Oden never needed to go all out to tap into his Coc which he already had manifested from childhood.
It's like you're confused or trying to convince yourself. Both scarring Kaidou and defeat King use CoC, but Zoro couldn't use it at will. He did not master Enma, it was Oden who mastered Enma (wielding it as light as feather). Zoro went all out against both Kaidou and King, finally able to use CoC, and fainted afterwards. Nothing shows Zoro getting stronger since that point, it's about infusing his attacks with CoC at will until now.
Haki changes the people around you.
Devil Fruits change you/the world around you.
Both are a result of your personal reality overtaking the world around you.
Luffy will surpass both Imu and Roger, in that Imu's Haki couldn't compare to Joy Boy's, and Roger didn't have a Fruit.
Luffy's Haki, his ability to change people around him, combined with his Fruit being able to physically alter reality, will allow him to truly change the world.
Why do Kuzan and Garp have strong Haki, while most Marines don't? Because, they put their sense of self, their true justice, above the WG.
Kuzan refused to kill Saul or Robin, and helped them survive. Garp has stuck his middle finger up at the CDs/WG for years.
What makes Luffy one of strongest fighters in the series, is he refuses to compromise himself for the sake of others. That was the real point of Usopp's recent speech: Luffy is strong because he follows his own convictions.
Those with the strongest Haki are those who are most honest with themselves.
Devil Fruits change you/the world around you.
Both are a result of your personal reality overtaking the world around you.
Luffy will surpass both Imu and Roger, in that Imu's Haki couldn't compare to Joy Boy's, and Roger didn't have a Fruit.
Luffy's Haki, his ability to change people around him, combined with his Fruit being able to physically alter reality, will allow him to truly change the world.
Why do Kuzan and Garp have strong Haki, while most Marines don't? Because, they put their sense of self, their true justice, above the WG.
Kuzan refused to kill Saul or Robin, and helped them survive. Garp has stuck his middle finger up at the CDs/WG for years.
What makes Luffy one of strongest fighters in the series, is he refuses to compromise himself for the sake of others. That was the real point of Usopp's recent speech: Luffy is strong because he follows his own convictions.
Those with the strongest Haki are those who are most honest with themselves.
Hmmmm. Maybe post-war Imu is stronger than Void Century Imu?
Imu was also in silhouette form when he felt Joy Boy's Haki in Egghead. Entirely possible his reaction would have been different if Imu was in this form.
I'm still not sure if Imu was stronger than Joy Boy in the Void Century, or if he did hax to win. Definitely close in power, if not stronger, IMO.
Imu was also in silhouette form when he felt Joy Boy's Haki in Egghead. Entirely possible his reaction would have been different if Imu was in this form.
I'm still not sure if Imu was stronger than Joy Boy in the Void Century, or if he did hax to win. Definitely close in power, if not stronger, IMO.
