Spoiler One Piece Chapter Spoiler 1195 Spoilers Discussion

Mythical zoan user vs thorn paramecia hmmm I wonder which is superior
This isn’t how power scaling works in this story.

orochi is mythical zoan user… So it’s OnimaruX do you remember who onimaru even is.

Currently Sommers has a better feat than Killingham, Sommers on panel blocks an AdvCoC slash from Gaban. It’s an unnamed slash but it’s still a feat. His thorns are strong enough to tank that slash and he’s fast enough to react.

This of course is a shit feat. But it’s better than the NO FEATS we have from Killingham if you don’t count Zaza as part of Killingham’s feats

if you do count Zaza then this is a great Size feat since she can suppress and stall multiple giants, including Dory and Broggy who aren’t fodder… But it’s a Stalling feat and nothing else
 
did you leave Wano thinking there was an extra thing to Enma that Enma’s own creator didn’t mention?
I left Wano thinking that Zoro had just began getting in sync with Enma, but that there was a lot more to do for him to fully tame the sword.
Also, since we had started getting into the personality of the swords, I thought next Zoro would learn to "hear" the needs of his other two blades, finally getting into why Sandai is cursed and how to use that misfortune to Zoro's advantage.
 
I'm not talking about Sanji's CoC specifically, but about how contrived the flashbacks are for both Zoro and Sanji to get the same power up at once simply because Oda couldn't be asked to continue their individual paths with Enma and the Raid Suit.
Lowk wouldn’t be that bad if Zoro just got coc coating for good on Wano and it was just Sanji getting this now.

It also feels like character regression from Zoro, why would he not be a conqueror given his goal. And why did Mihawk not inform Zoro of his (potentially) affinity to CoC. And why did he figure it’s for captains only when, the first time he saw CoC, it was Rayleigh who’s not a captain.

Istg it only works with Sanji who’s been self deprecating his whole life and made to feel worthless by his past, but the Zoro side of things stink like shit
 
I left Wano thinking that Zoro had just began getting in sync with Enma, but that there was a lot more to do for him to fully tame the sword.
Also, since we had started getting into the personality of the swords, I thought next Zoro would learn to "hear" the needs of his other two blades, finally getting into why Sandai is cursed and how to use that misfortune to Zoro's advantage.
See the problem is that Kozaburo, Enma’s creator, only said one thing about Enma, and then Zoro IMMEDIATELY does the One thing Kozaburo says.

we aren’t led to believe that Zoro half accomplished what Kozaburo said, not he just did the thing Kozaburo said he should do. And that was that

the only argument you can make is that Zoro himself said that Oden did the thing easier than him. As in Zoro thinks Oden did the thing Kozaburo said to do, more easily than Zoro was doing it

So if there is something more to Enma it’s Zoro just ASSUMING that he should do whatever he did already but easier because of Oden.

Also everything else you thought about the mechanics of other swords was addressed by Kozaburo too. Kozaburo says that some just have “stronger personalities” than other swords… for no reason… It’s just random luck… Remember that Kozaburo also made Zoro’s Wado Ichimonji, and it has no Enma type powers.

So Oda’s explanation for Enma’s Haki suck, and Sandai being cursed and Wado Ichimonji being normal is that well, they just have different personalities, and the way you can’t explain why humans have different personalities, you also can’t explain why sword do too.

It’s a classic Oda “who cares” answer
 
Lowk wouldn’t be that bad if Zoro just got coc coating for good on Wano and it was just Sanji getting this now.

It also feels like character regression from Zoro, why would he not be a conqueror given his goal. And why did Mihawk not inform Zoro of his (potentially) affinity to CoC. And why did he figure it’s for captains only when, the first time he saw CoC, it was Rayleigh who’s not a captain.

Istg it only works with Sanji who’s been self deprecating his whole life and made to feel worthless by his past, but the Zoro side of things stink like shit
It's all in service of parallels. Oda will do any character assassination necessary to fit his mirrors. He made Roger into a Luffy-like idiot to show how similar they are, and he is now making Zoro even more retarded to keep the PK wings on par. It's shameful behavior, coming from an author.
 
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