Chapter Discussion zoro s hakimanship cracks the giant ship

#61
2 more advanced haki types to go for Zoro to finally reach the level of 1010 Luffy (the one who got mid diffed by Kaido)
- better coo proven in early wano and against hakai
- better CoA since Zoro's Alabasta achievement is described literally the same as ryou/advanced CoA what condom learned on wano

Do you mean the advanced plot armor haki condom uses or do you mean the advanced other plot armor haki condom uses?
 
#62
Its crazy how little help he needed to reach this level because Mihawk trained him into monster.
you guys are joking right?

He literally got the most help out of every character we know who has acoc lol. Bro got a magic sword that sucked out his coc and familiarized him with acoc. And then the pirate king's right nut told him to his face that he has coc and he should try to master it. Then he had a flashback to mohawk that clued him on coc and acoc even further. While he was fighting a perfect training dummy for acoc too.

Like, that's a fuckton of help lmao
 

HA001

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#63
you guys are joking right?

He literally got the most help out of every character we know who has acoc lol. Bro got a magic sword that sucked out his coc and familiarized him with acoc. And then the pirate king's right nut told him to his face that he has coc and he should try to master it. Then he had a flashback to mohawk that clued him on coc and acoc even further. While he was fighting a perfect training dummy for acoc too.

Like, that's a fuckton of help lmao
@ImmaIvanoM want to explain to this ape how its never once stated or shown that enma does anything with coc for the millionth time
 
#66
you guys are joking right?

He literally got the most help out of every character we know who has acoc lol. Bro got a magic sword that sucked out his coc and familiarized him with acoc. And then the pirate king's right nut told him to his face that he has coc and he should try to master it. Then he had a flashback to mohawk that clued him on coc and acoc even further. While he was fighting a perfect training dummy for acoc too.

Like, that's a fuckton of help lmao
Btw that Pirate Kings right nut is strong enough to solo Laws entire family tree even if Laws power is multiplied by 1 million.
 
#68
@ImmaIvanoM want to explain to this ape how its never once stated or shown that enma does anything with coc for the millionth time
You retarded dumbfuck moron

The fuck do you think zoro was using acoc against king when that braindead clown didn't even know he had basic coc?

It's stated that Emma sucks out users haki. acoc is haki you retard

No, Enma never sucked out oden’s CoC
Yeah cause Lolden was not a scrub unlike zoro...

Lolden could satisfy emma with his coa alone. We had this convo already dude. You went on and on about some infinite haki that lolden needed to have, because you fundamentally do not understand haki or mid piece fights at all. Even tho they're simple as fuck...
 
#71
Yeah cause Lolden was not a scrub unlike zoro...
Enma’s powers don’t change based on who is using it

we literally have a flashback of Enma’s creator explaining this

Enma’s creator said that Enma takes all the Ryuo it wants no matter what.

it doesn’t have a limit to the Ryuo it takes. It doesn’t get “satisfied”. Did you read somewhere in the flashback the word “satisfied”?
 
#76
we literally have a flashback of Enma’s creator explaining this

Enma’s creator said that Enma takes all the Ryuo it wants no matter what.
Nope. Kozaburo never said shit about Ryuo at all. You guys are just making up shit just to make sense of the broken headcanons in your heads. Bring me the panel if you can.

it doesn’t have a limit to the Ryuo it takes. It doesn’t get “satisfied”. Did you read somewhere in the flashback the word “satisfied”?
Once again you fixate on a single word while ignoring the meaning of other words and things said in the manga...









"It was my strength that was lacking"
"Lolden wielded you easily even with so much haki being drained away"
"i don't have much time. If the fight drags on, enma will kill me"


So lolden wielded emma easily while zoro struggles hard, and literally says emma will kill him if the fight drags on and he doesn't have much time.

We can easily understand what this all means. Well people who actually read the manga can. Not people like you guys who are too deep into the agenda that you can't even see basic facts and can't even connect two simple dots to understand the mechanics of emma.

What those lines say without outright using the word "satisfy" is, Zoro cannot satisfy emma while lolden could.

We have never seen lolden struggle with emma AT ALL. We don't see anything that indicates it is affecting lolden or sucking out so much of his haki that it's actively killing him.

We can come to a conclusion by reading that. The actual, factual, logical conclusion that is supported by the manga and basically outright stated by zoro himself in the first pic above.

Lolden was far far stronger than zoro and had enough haki reserves to comfortably feed emma in battle and never have to worry about emma not being satisfied. That emma had enough haki from lolden that it neven needed to suck everything it can get out of lolden and put him in danger of dying from haki drain.

That is literally what zoro says in that page. This is a fact. There's no other way anyone can interpret that. You guys certainly do try hard to interpret in some other ways but manga facts from your own guy's mouth just fucks all that up.

"My strength is lacking"
"Lolden wielded emma easily at full throttle, while it is actively killing me when i am wielding it at full throttle"

These are pure cold hard manga facts.

And from this, we(people without a pro zoro agenda) can extrapolate that because lolden had enough coa reserves to satisfy emma in battles, it never needed to suck out his coc and convert it into acoc. That is why lolden did not unlock acoc by wielding the magic sword emma.

But zoro's own haki reserves are as implied by himself, far lower than lolden. So emma resorts to sucking out whatever it can get, and in that process, zoro's dormant coc that he himself didn't even know he had, gets brought out and turned to acoc.

That's it.
 

HA001

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#78
Nope. Kozaburo never said shit about Ryuo at all. You guys are just making up shit just to make sense of the broken headcanons in your heads. Bring me the panel if you can.


Once again you fixate on a single word while ignoring the meaning of other words and things said in the manga...









"It was my strength that was lacking"
"Lolden wielded you easily even with so much haki being drained away"
"i don't have much time. If the fight drags on, enma will kill me"


So lolden wielded emma easily while zoro struggles hard, and literally says emma will kill him if the fight drags on and he doesn't have much time.

We can easily understand what this all means. Well people who actually read the manga can. Not people like you guys who are too deep into the agenda that you can't even see basic facts and can't even connect two simple dots to understand the mechanics of emma.

What those lines say without outright using the word "satisfy" is, Zoro cannot satisfy emma while lolden could.

We have never seen lolden struggle with emma AT ALL. We don't see anything that indicates it is affecting lolden or sucking out so much of his haki that it's actively killing him.

We can come to a conclusion by reading that. The actual, factual, logical conclusion that is supported by the manga and basically outright stated by zoro himself in the first pic above.

Lolden was far far stronger than zoro and had enough haki reserves to comfortably feed emma in battle and never have to worry about emma not being satisfied. That emma had enough haki from lolden that it neven needed to suck everything it can get out of lolden and put him in danger of dying from haki drain.

That is literally what zoro says in that page. This is a fact. There's no other way anyone can interpret that. You guys certainly do try hard to interpret in some other ways but manga facts from your own guy's mouth just fucks all that up.

"My strength is lacking"
"Lolden wielded emma easily at full throttle, while it is actively killing me when i am wielding it at full throttle"

These are pure cold hard manga facts.

And from this, we(people without a pro zoro agenda) can extrapolate that because lolden had enough coa reserves to satisfy emma in battles, it never needed to suck out his coc and convert it into acoc. That is why lolden did not unlock acoc by wielding the magic sword emma.

But zoro's own haki reserves are as implied by himself, far lower than lolden. So emma resorts to sucking out whatever it can get, and in that process, zoro's dormant coc that he himself didn't even know he had, gets brought out and turned to acoc.

That's it.
This is easily debunked by the fact oden had it as a kid and he factually wasnt stronger than zoro then.
As usual every time you spout shit you get crushed.
 
#80
This is easily debunked by the fact oden had it as a kid and he factually wasnt stronger than zoro then.
As usual every time you spout shit you get crushed.
"factually"

argue with oda lol. He's the one that wrote kid lolden running around with the same sword that zoro himself said would kill him from using it for a few minutes
 
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