The tension in Wano wasn't exactly much better 
Let's not get too crazy
Let's not get too crazy
Spoiler One Piece Chapter Spoiler 1196 Spoilers Discussion
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There was such a huge gap at the start of Wano between Luffy and Kaido. Kaido was just on another level, you know? And little by little, Luffy caught up until he was just as strong. He didn't surpass him, but they reached the same tier. Then Egghead comes around, and Luffy is just clowning on all the Gorosei. And now we get to Elbaf, and Imu, even if he is supposedly stronger, has literally done nothing, you know? Meanwhile, Kaido back in Wano felt genuinely unbeatable
Do idiots even read?
THE ONLY TIME IN WHICH SANJI ASKED ANYONE TO KILL HIM WAS WHEN HE THOUGHT HE WAS BECOMING LIKE HIA BROTHERS (GERMA GENES AWAKENING).
THE ONLY SUICIDAL TENDENCY SANJI EVER SHOEED WAS WHEN HE THOUGHT HE WAS BECOMING LIKE HIS BROTHERS. HE WAS SCARED OF LOSING HIMSELF AND ASKED ZORO TO KILL HIM IF HE DID.
And this dumb ass (you) decided that your statement made sense?
Did sanji ask anyone to kill him in reference to what he endured on okama island? No.
Did he ask the person whom he tries to rival, to kill him the moment his vinsmoke / germa side awakened? Yes
So which one do you think brings more fear to sanji?
Reading comprehension people
THE ONLY TIME IN WHICH SANJI ASKED ANYONE TO KILL HIM WAS WHEN HE THOUGHT HE WAS BECOMING LIKE HIA BROTHERS (GERMA GENES AWAKENING).
THE ONLY SUICIDAL TENDENCY SANJI EVER SHOEED WAS WHEN HE THOUGHT HE WAS BECOMING LIKE HIS BROTHERS. HE WAS SCARED OF LOSING HIMSELF AND ASKED ZORO TO KILL HIM IF HE DID.
And this dumb ass (you) decided that your statement made sense?
Did sanji ask anyone to kill him in reference to what he endured on okama island? No.
Did he ask the person whom he tries to rival, to kill him the moment his vinsmoke / germa side awakened? Yes
So which one do you think brings more fear to sanji?
Reading comprehension people
This self-hate retcon was made in WCI. Pre-skip he sacrificed himself for his crew, like how Luffy did vs Kuzan, Zoro vs Kuma, the whole crew vs Kuma (taking the nuke rather than give Luffy). It was never portrayed as some bad thing.
I guess if Enel is going to 200mil volt Nami and Usopp next time, the correct thing for Sanji to do would be to let it happen and prioritize himself.
I guess if Enel is going to 200mil volt Nami and Usopp next time, the correct thing for Sanji to do would be to let it happen and prioritize himself.
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The same Luffy who lost to or got knocked out by Kaido 5-6 different times and was allowed to come back every single time with no consequences?
What tension was there in Wano? None, at least not to me
There’s really nothing that separates Kaido from any other One Piece antagonist. He felt strong and somewhat threatening at first then as the arc progresses you realize the main characters will never face any real consequences for losing to him
That’s why villains have never been One Piece’s strong suit. He doesn’t let any of them (besides Akainu and Blackbeard) do anything permanent
What tension was there in Wano? None, at least not to me
There’s really nothing that separates Kaido from any other One Piece antagonist. He felt strong and somewhat threatening at first then as the arc progresses you realize the main characters will never face any real consequences for losing to him
That’s why villains have never been One Piece’s strong suit. He doesn’t let any of them (besides Akainu and Blackbeard) do anything permanent
It IS focusing on it.
Because of his trauma as a child just like in real life, he now courts death. Courting death is not the same as being suicidal or neglectful. It is a SUBCONSCIOUS action to risk yourself, and keep taking more and more dangerous jobs or goals because you don't care what happens to you. It's not actively trying to die or just quitting and giving up like apathy.
Let's take another character as an example. I've compared Sanji to Flynn Rider from Tangled before, and Oda loves Disney so it works.
In Tangled, Flynn Rider reveals himself to be an abandoned and unwanted orphan named Eugene. As Flynn Rider he would actively escape from jail and run to not die. He did not want to die. YET, he took riskier and risker thief jobs until he stole the crown which was high treason and was nearly executed. He's also arrogant and conceited as Flynn.
But when Rapunzel tells him she likes Eugene better than Flynn Rider. He tells her "thank you, you'd be THE FIRST," the man didn't like himself even, despite the conceit and self preservation. Because he was tired of that life subconsciously and traumatized from abandonment.
Sanji is EQUALLY traumatized from abandonment. He does not think he should be loved because his childhood told him he does not deserve it. He's not trying to die, and doesn't notice the risks he takes, because he's just trying to save others and finish the goal or risk. Luffy was his "I like Sanji as he is."
ANOTHER character comparison. Watch Gurren Lagann. Simon doesn't believe in himself but still tries to live. It takes Kamina convincing him by saying believe in him (Kamina) who believes in Simon. He couldn't believe in himself so he believes in those who believes in him. And it isn't until Kamina dies that he can believe in Simon who believes in himself.
Sanji seeing himself as a Strawhat no longer needs to believe in Luffy believing in him. He can now believe in Sanji who believes in himself
Because of his trauma as a child just like in real life, he now courts death. Courting death is not the same as being suicidal or neglectful. It is a SUBCONSCIOUS action to risk yourself, and keep taking more and more dangerous jobs or goals because you don't care what happens to you. It's not actively trying to die or just quitting and giving up like apathy.
Let's take another character as an example. I've compared Sanji to Flynn Rider from Tangled before, and Oda loves Disney so it works.
In Tangled, Flynn Rider reveals himself to be an abandoned and unwanted orphan named Eugene. As Flynn Rider he would actively escape from jail and run to not die. He did not want to die. YET, he took riskier and risker thief jobs until he stole the crown which was high treason and was nearly executed. He's also arrogant and conceited as Flynn.
But when Rapunzel tells him she likes Eugene better than Flynn Rider. He tells her "thank you, you'd be THE FIRST," the man didn't like himself even, despite the conceit and self preservation. Because he was tired of that life subconsciously and traumatized from abandonment.
Sanji is EQUALLY traumatized from abandonment. He does not think he should be loved because his childhood told him he does not deserve it. He's not trying to die, and doesn't notice the risks he takes, because he's just trying to save others and finish the goal or risk. Luffy was his "I like Sanji as he is."
ANOTHER character comparison. Watch Gurren Lagann. Simon doesn't believe in himself but still tries to live. It takes Kamina convincing him by saying believe in him (Kamina) who believes in Simon. He couldn't believe in himself so he believes in those who believes in him. And it isn't until Kamina dies that he can believe in Simon who believes in himself.
Sanji seeing himself as a Strawhat no longer needs to believe in Luffy believing in him. He can now believe in Sanji who believes in himself
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