Spoiler One Piece Chapter Spoiler 1196 Spoilers Discussion

[Sir Yasheen]

This isn’t really relevant though when discussing previous arc versions of Zoro and Sanji

It explains why Sanjis power level was so wildly inconsistent between him blocking an attack from Big Mom, and lasers from Kizaru to getting tagged by Vergo.

 

[Fujishiro]

Does this means Ace is also has this mental nerf state?

Ace never realized his full potential tbh.

 

[D. Plant]

Yes he was carrying so much self loathing due to his father bad reputation

Too bad he carried it to his death. I want to see Sabo do Mera Mera no Mi justice.

 

[Johnny B. Decent]

The name of it in Japanese, Haou, well the "Ha" part of it is taken from Chinese, where it's called "Ba" and this word was used to describe the Five Hedgemons during the Spring and Autumn Period of the Later Zhou Dynasty. The "Ba" were the premier noble of the time, basically ruling over the, by that time, figurehead King, and making sure the Dynasty went smoothly. But it wasn't five men simultaneously, it was in succession.

If it was simply just "Oushoku" or "King's Haki", I think it would be a bit simpler. But to be a Supreme King, well, that feels like it really should only be one or two people alone. A lord of kings, essentially.

 

[Shiroyru]

Lee's a crackhead

“Goku was mentally nerfed up until the Tournament of Power because he didn’t have the right mentality to use UI yet”

Sometimes it feels like people forget that these are actual characters and not powerscaling robots. Mentality is a part of power levels

 

[Shiroyru]

It explains why Sanjis power level was so wildly inconsistent between him blocking an attack from Big Mom, and lasers from Kizaru to getting tagged by Vergo.

1. Powercreep
2. Oda is a trash powerscaler

We don’t need to make these convoluted excuses for Oda lol. This is the same guy who wrote Prime Ray and Gaban fighting Teenage WBPs for 3 days

 

[mly90]

This reminds of akainu biggest flex is killing mentally nerfed young child but was sweating with terrified expression when shanks just blocked him

 

[Fujishiro]

Sargeras.

 

[Fujishiro]

This reminds of akainu biggest flex is killing mentally nerfed young child but was sweating with terrified expression when shanks just blocked him

@Elder Lee Hung

 

[Sir Yasheen]

1. Powercreep
2. Oda is a trash powerscaler

We don’t need to make these convoluted excuses for Oda lol. This is the same guy who wrote Prime Ray and Gaban fighting Teenage WBPs for 3 days

He didn’t write that lmao.

Sounds like you’re just coping

 

[Fujishiro]

 

[D. Plant]

Ace never realized his full potential tbh.

I think he is better to join Dragon than Whitebeard, just look at how good Sabo has became.

 

[ArturCantSpeakJapanese]

COPE NI99A COPE

he had future sight since WCI. he wouldnt have dodged the jelly bean without future sight. katakuri was literally shocked + sweating but the situation was too complex to focus on that. luffy was not able to dodge katakuri's future sight assisted attacks until he also unlocked future sight

 

[Fujishiro]

I think he is better to join Dragon than Whitebeard, just look at how good Sabo has became.

Different characters, Ace was looking for a place to belong whereas Sabo wanted to change things.

 

[mly90]

It was heartbreaking loda kill off ace he had potential to be top 2 in the verse loved the way he used his df fiery personality
A lot of fans still love ace which is why to this day he ranks among the top in popularity poll i like sabo but he can't replace him

 

[D. Plant]

Different characters, Ace was looking for a place to belong whereas Sabo wanted to change things.

Yeah you are right.

 

[Shiroyru]

He didn’t write that lmao.

Sounds like you’re just coping

Hajrudin proves powercreep exists so idk why you’re still pushing this

 

[Elder Lee Hung]

This isn’t really relevant though when discussing previous arc versions of Zoro and Sanji

How? Lol

Ivankov isn’t commenting on some weakness that only existed during Sanji’s training, Ivankov is noticing a weakness Sanji has during all fights.

So in other words, Zolo spent 30 years rivaling a nerfed Sanji, lol

 

[Shiroyru]

How? Lol

Ivankov isn’t commenting on some weakness that only existed during Sanji’s training, Ivankov is noticing a weakness Sanji has during all fights.

So in other words, Zolo spent 30 years rivaling a nerfed Sanji, lol

Was Goku mentally nerfed until he unlocked UI?

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

It explains why Sanjis power level was so wildly inconsistent between him blocking an attack from Big Mom, and lasers from Kizaru to getting tagged by Vergo.

Luffy helped him against Big Mom, also Big Mom was barely trying
Sanji was way stronger against Kizaru than he was against Vergo, plus he was nerfed against Vergo