Character Discussion Pray and fast that Shamrock is trash Swordsissies and Yoncucks

#21
And I thought you were a Wings believer...ok bro...don't come crying about inconsistent powerscaling and powerclifing when Zoro and Sanji are negging top tiers next arc :PepeJoker:
i believe in chicken wings, they will get PUS to do that

We talking about current wings, not a hypothetical version of them in the future or next arc

There is a reason why shampebble was recalled away from Elbaf from oda while the bums stayed here
 
#23
@Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier @soupongo Admiral fans still pushing the “HKs aren’t a secret” lie after Gaban straight up stated he had no clue that the CDs had powerful fighters amongst them really does show how much of a waste of a time 99% of discussions are here tbh
I'm not even sure what all the insecurity's about since the only HK that could reasonably be above the Admirals is Shamrock, and given that he's the brother of the ultimate Gary Stu I feel like that's just expected of him
 
#26
Imu was attacked by a flying slash coated in haki while he was focused on trying to kill Luffy with Stigma. you can literally see Gaban swinging his axes at Imu in the air
We've seen how the black lightning hit Imu's Omen defence. It wasn't some flying slashes.
You can see the same kind of attack when Zoro cut off Sommer's arm.

Shanks used a similar attack on Aramaki. Just face it, it was never some "casual WiFi Haki" like the fandom always thought before...
 
#33
If the WG wanted the HKs to be known, they’d be spreading propaganda about Saint Sommers’s legendary exploits
We aren't told that the general public believes that the admirals are the strongest fighting force. We're told the world government considers them so. This corresponds with admirals being apart of the most important missions we generally see in the story. This isn't some far off thing either, we know that currently the admirals are on the front line against some major enemies

So yeah, you did get a W that the HK are a secret force, but it doesn't fundamentally change the argument
 
#34
We aren't told that the general public believes that the admirals are the strongest fighting force. We're told the world government considers them so. This corresponds with admirals being apart of the most important missions we generally see in the story. This isn't some far off thing either, we know that currently the admirals are on the front line against some major enemies

So yeah, you did get a W that the HK are a secret force, but it doesn't fundamentally change the argument
It’s just what the WG wants the public to know as their strongest fighting force, otherwise Imu would be called the WG’s strongest fighting force if they were keeping no secrets
 
#35
It’s just what the WG wants the public to know as their strongest fighting force, otherwise Imu would be called the WG’s strongest fighting force if they were keeping no secrets
Oda was pretty intentional by saying "fighting" force tho. The Gorosei were introduced before even the admirals, so it was at least open characters who didn't have combat related jobs could be stronger, and Imu fits in the same role obviously. The Knights are a military force, the world government doesn't even really gain anything by keeping them secret. They just don't have the quality to be elevated like the admirals.
 
#36
If the WG wanted the HKs to be known, they’d be spreading propaganda about Saint Sommers’s legendary exploits
If anything, the HKs being less known than the Admirals is a testament to how fraudulent and weak they really are, and how little the WG actually uses them for fighting compared to the Admirals

who practically guarantee the existence of the CD
 
#37
Oda was pretty intentional by saying "fighting" force tho. The Gorosei were introduced before even the admirals, so it was at least open characters who didn't have combat related jobs could be stronger, and Imu fits in the same role obviously. The Knights are a military force, the world government doesn't even really gain anything by keeping them secret. They just don't have the quality to be elevated like the admirals.
I mean the fact that no one on Elbaf even knows who Shamrock is does kinda show that they’re a secret force.
 
#38
I mean the fact that no one on Elbaf even knows who Shamrock is does kinda show that they’re a secret force.
The government doesn't hide Shamrock's existence like Imu though, he just hasn't been involved in anything high profile enough to boost his faction of jobbers above the admirals. Even the admirals probably aren't like total household names, the Strawhats didn't really know them.
 
#39
The government doesn't hide Shamrock's existence like Imu though, he just hasn't been involved in anything high profile enough to boost his faction of jobbers above the admirals. Even the admirals probably aren't like total household names, the Strawhats didn't really know them.
they send the admirals after anyone that attacks a cd, so i would imagine people know about the admirals far more
 
#40
Collectively, the admirals are the WG's strongest fighting force -- that doesn't cap Shamrock below them.

Sommers with 2 (3?) power-ups couldn't even come close to laying a finger on essentially a CoCless, distracted Zoro. I highly doubt the combined power of the HKs even with a top-tier Shamrock is approaching the power of 3 admirals
 
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