Spoiler One Piece Chapter Spoiler 1197 Spoilers Discussion
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Another great case of "people could have simply used their eyes and figured it out by themselves, but unfortunately agenda trumps brain".
I have messages in that literal spoiler thread saying that was CoC, because I mean, we can actually use our eyes (not to mention understand the narrative of Aokiji and Garp).
I have messages in that literal spoiler thread saying that was CoC, because I mean, we can actually use our eyes (not to mention understand the narrative of Aokiji and Garp).
For the past couple years its been people trashing on Sanji. If people did ever point it out, it probably got drowned out lol.
I had a discussion with friend irl that I never even registered that Sanji takes unneccesary damage/doesn't love himself nd he pointed out that:
- in the Absalom fight Sanji could have one shot him to protect Nami, but put her safety above his own and took all that damage for nothing.
- him sacrificing himself in TB. Zoro knocked him out because he knew Sanji would die and he had more higher chances of surviving.
- when he fought the fishman in Arlong Park and took so much damage, Sanji could have focused on defeating him quicker then go save Luffy and protect Nojiko to boot.
- he sacrificed himself in WCI forgetting that Luffy would have came for him and continued with this sad mentality until Pudding revealed she didnt love him. He didnt care about himself to the point of beating up Luffy to convince him to leave.
- In Wano, Sanji clearly knows he's stronger than Black Maria and intentionally does not use Armanment because he fears she and her subordinates would hurt themselves on his Haki. Not only was that dumb, but he could have chose to just dodge instead of getting caught lol.
I had a discussion with friend irl that I never even registered that Sanji takes unneccesary damage/doesn't love himself nd he pointed out that:
- in the Absalom fight Sanji could have one shot him to protect Nami, but put her safety above his own and took all that damage for nothing.
- him sacrificing himself in TB. Zoro knocked him out because he knew Sanji would die and he had more higher chances of surviving.
- when he fought the fishman in Arlong Park and took so much damage, Sanji could have focused on defeating him quicker then go save Luffy and protect Nojiko to boot.
- he sacrificed himself in WCI forgetting that Luffy would have came for him and continued with this sad mentality until Pudding revealed she didnt love him. He didnt care about himself to the point of beating up Luffy to convince him to leave.
- In Wano, Sanji clearly knows he's stronger than Black Maria and intentionally does not use Armanment because he fears she and her subordinates would hurt themselves on his Haki. Not only was that dumb, but he could have chose to just dodge instead of getting caught lol.
Another great case of "people could have simply used their eyes and figured it out by themselves, but unfortunately agenda trumps brain".
I have messages in that literal spoiler thread saying that was CoC, because I mean, we can actually use our eyes (not to mention understand the narrative of Aokiji and Garp).
I have messages in that literal spoiler thread saying that was CoC, because I mean, we can actually use our eyes (not to mention understand the narrative of Aokiji and Garp).
What about this
If you want, I can even show pictures of Haki being totally invisible; that doesn't mean it is invisible now lol.
Visuals completely changed at the end of Wano. That's why, for example, I called Gaban's CoC literally the first time we saw it, while some people still tried to deny the obvious:
But I can show you even "invisible" AdvCoC Haki in recent panels too.
Using the brain is always the way to go.
People have actually been discussing Sanji’s lack of self-worth and self-destructive tendencies for years. Here are a few examples:
Exhibit A: Arlong Park Forums (2016), reckless fighting, self-sacrifice and disregard for his own life.
https://forums.arlongpark.net/topic/40052/chapter-844-luffy-vs-sanji/292
Exhibit B: Arlong Park Forums (2019), Sanji’s tendency to resign himself to death without fighting back.
https://forums.arlongpark.net/topic/29711/theories-that-don-t-deserve-their-own-thread-v-2/12776
Exhibit C: Arlong Park Forums (2019), childhood trauma, self-hatred and unrealized potential.
https://forums.arlongpark.net/topic/29711/theories-that-don-t-deserve-their-own-thread-v-2/12798
Exhibit D: Reddit (2020), self-destructive behavior stemming from childhood abuse.
Exhibit E: Crunchyroll (2021), self-worth and repeated attempts at self-sacrifice.
https://www.crunchyroll.com/news/fe...rful-meaning-behind-sanjis-hands-in-one-piece
Exhibit F: Reddit (2021), conditional love, low self-esteem and difficulty accepting help.
Exhibit G: Reddit (2022), in-depth analysis of Sanji’s self-sacrificial nature.
Exhibit H: Reddit (2023), discussion of his self-worth and repeated willingness to die.
Exhibit I: Japanese fandom (2024), a 200+ page study dedicated to understanding Sanji’s self-sacrificial behavior.
https://note.com/swim_think/n/ne68d86b013fa
Exhibit J: Reddit (June 2026), Sanji’s character arc revolving around self-worth rather than strength.
The specific connection to his fighting style might be new, but the underlying characterization has been discussed for years.
Exhibit A: Arlong Park Forums (2016), reckless fighting, self-sacrifice and disregard for his own life.
https://forums.arlongpark.net/topic/40052/chapter-844-luffy-vs-sanji/292
Exhibit B: Arlong Park Forums (2019), Sanji’s tendency to resign himself to death without fighting back.
https://forums.arlongpark.net/topic/29711/theories-that-don-t-deserve-their-own-thread-v-2/12776
Exhibit C: Arlong Park Forums (2019), childhood trauma, self-hatred and unrealized potential.
https://forums.arlongpark.net/topic/29711/theories-that-don-t-deserve-their-own-thread-v-2/12798
Exhibit D: Reddit (2020), self-destructive behavior stemming from childhood abuse.
Exhibit E: Crunchyroll (2021), self-worth and repeated attempts at self-sacrifice.
https://www.crunchyroll.com/news/fe...rful-meaning-behind-sanjis-hands-in-one-piece
Exhibit F: Reddit (2021), conditional love, low self-esteem and difficulty accepting help.
Exhibit G: Reddit (2022), in-depth analysis of Sanji’s self-sacrificial nature.
Exhibit H: Reddit (2023), discussion of his self-worth and repeated willingness to die.
Exhibit I: Japanese fandom (2024), a 200+ page study dedicated to understanding Sanji’s self-sacrificial behavior.
https://note.com/swim_think/n/ne68d86b013fa
Exhibit J: Reddit (June 2026), Sanji’s character arc revolving around self-worth rather than strength.
The specific connection to his fighting style might be new, but the underlying characterization has been discussed for years.
CoC infused physical attacks are crazy. They basically overwrite other defenses. That's borderline hax against every defense not enhanced by CoC.
It's pretty much doing to CoA hardening what CoA hardening was doing to pre ts defenses w/o CoA.
I don't necessarily think that this toughness makes the raw force of attacks (much) stronger, it's just the penetrative force becomes hax.
Sanji can now break the swords of the scabbards or Vista or Katakuri's mole just by blocking them lol
It's pretty much doing to CoA hardening what CoA hardening was doing to pre ts defenses w/o CoA.
I don't necessarily think that this toughness makes the raw force of attacks (much) stronger, it's just the penetrative force becomes hax.
Sanji can now break the swords of the scabbards or Vista or Katakuri's mole just by blocking them lol
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