Chapter Discussion One Piece Chapter 1197: Love is Defense

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You KEEP arguing your feelings as if they matter.

Chapter starts with eyebrow normal when Sanji blitzes.



Then he thinks about Germa and THE CHAPTER DRAWS ATTENTION TO THE FLIP.


Then he rejects that and thinks about his mother, Zeff and Iva and it switches BACK TO NORMAL.





Ifrit = fire + exo + Armament

Anything else is headcanon cope.

I am not interested in your feelings or wishful thinking. Stick to facts.
Your argument is all over the place. Sanji’s been going through so called emotional turmoil throughout this fight & the eyebrow never flipped but it flipped when Oda wanted to highlight Germa 💀

Moreover on the Ifrit ting you are just refusing to think coz it’s convenient for your argument but sadly for you the role the exo plays in Ifrit has already been clearly explained.

Plus I’ll do you one further, we know Sanji’s exo gives him regen in addition to dura but this mofo has not healed at all since he took damage from Imu. What happened to his regen?
 
So maybe I’m misreading this but based on the dialogue (with trash translations tbf) it sounds like Sanji isn’t fully aware he’s using conqueror’s haki

He’s tapped into it from the start of the chapter but can’t consciously control it (Killingham says as much)

Now I’m wondering if the end of the chapter is supposed to signify his full awakening or if he’s getting the Zoro treatment until later in the story
Exactly my thoughts because if Sanji goes on not noticing he has unlocked CoC, then he is NOT on Zoro’s logic because there’s a clear difference between someone who understands and is consciously using CoC and those who don’t and is the reason Zoro went Extreme diff vs Lucci last arc, so maybe Oda wants to maintain Zoro’s superiority which is why he made Sanji not aware of his CoC usage
 
So much controversy over the "body my mother gave me" line. Which, yeah, is quite ambiguous but should easily resolve the more we see him in combat. Insane durability and recovery don't stay obscure.

As far as the narrative goes, I guess there's the idea that shunning Germa should mean not being a physical monster like them, as Sora sacrificed her life to make him normal. But having emotions is really enough for that. He's lived as a person who would never allow himself to be that and now he has the confidence to be sure that he can't. To me that was the whole eyebrow thing, a symbol of that resolved plotline. I mean it's not as is his self loathing only goes back to Wano and before that the idea of becoming like them in any conceivable way was impossible. Just like the raid suit, he can use his newfound powers to protect himself.
 
Your argument is all over the place.
YOU JUST MADE UP SOME SHIT ABOUT IFRIT REQUIREMENTS CHANGING.

Quit projecting your bullshit on me because you don't have a leg to stand on.

Sanji’s been going through so called emotional turmoil throughout this fight & the eyebrow never flipped but it flipped when Oda wanted to highlight Germa 💀
Thinks of Germa - flips


Thinks of the people he loves - flip


WHAT IS THAT AN INDICATOR OF IF NOT HIS EMOTIONAL STATE?

Moreover on the Ifrit ting you are just refusing to think coz it’s convenient for your argument but sadly for you the role the exo plays in Ifrit has already been clearly explained.

Plus I do you one further, we know Sanji’s exo gives him regen in addition to dura but this mofo has not healed at all since he took damage from Imu.
You know damn well common sense should tell you the healing factor is why Sanji has been in the fight for as long as he has.

The issue here that you are insecure as fuck.

Just an absolutely pathetic rodent that cannot own up to being proven wrong DEFINITIVELY.

That's why you keep changing the subject, hoping to distract from the fundamental point about the eyebrow.
 
I still think Sanji needs to accept his Germa side too even though the way Judge was going about it was wrong, i can't say he ia baseless.
There is a difference between accepting to be the product of Germa, and accepting to be part of the Germa lineage.

Sanji accepted the first in wano, but he won't accept the later. He hates Germa, he has no reason to consider himselfd a part of the legacy. His body and spirit are his own, forged by his mother's love, Zeff's respect and the Queens's self acceptance.
 
YOU JUST MADE UP SOME SHIT ABOUT IFRIT REQUIREMENTS CHANGING.

Quit projecting your bullshit on me because you don't have a leg to stand on.



Thinks of Germa - flips


Thinks of the people he loves - flip


WHAT IS THAT AN INDICATOR OF IF NOT HIS EMOTIONAL STATE?



You know damn well common sense should tell you the healing factor is why Sanji has been in the fight for as long as he has.

The issue here that you are insecure as fuck.

Just an absolutely pathetic rodent that cannot own up to being proven wrong DEFINITIVELY.

That's why you keep changing the subject, hoping to distract from the fundamental point about the eyebrow.
Well that escalated quickly…

:risisweat:
Insecure huh…:risitameh:
Anyways, let’s agree to disagree this isn’t going to go anywhere. Sadly for you though, you ain’t getting the victory lap u thought u was gonna get :risitears:
Is all love though 🫂
 
Well that escalated quickly…

:risisweat:
Insecure huh…:risitameh:
Anyways, let’s agree to disagree this isn’t going to go anywhere. Sadly for you though, you ain’t getting the victory lap u thought u was gonna get :risitears:
Is all love though 🫂
Fuck your agree is disagree, bitch.

We are way past that.

You've abused every ounce of good faith I've shown you and the other retards in the FC.

Embarassing fanboys salivating for a "Germa mode" and then losing any sense of objectivity when confronted with evidence.

That's why you have avoided addressing these panels altogether.



The lot of you are illiterate cunts like I've told you many times.
 
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