Chapter Discussion One Piece Chapter 1197: Love is Defense

[NikaInParis]

Killingham repping the Tree Sentinel Armour

 

[Luslec]

I just realised if Sanji came out of time skip with his current mindset, then he would have been too strong

He would solo FI to WCI all by himself, there’s a reason Oda took his time with Sanji

 

[Logiko]

Fuck your agree is disagree, bitch.

We are way past that.

You've abused every ounce of good faith I've shown you and the other retards in the FC.

Embarassing fanboys salivating for a "Germa mode" and then losing any sense of objectivity when confronted with evidence.

That's why you have avoided addressing these panels altogether.

The lot of you are illiterate cunts like I've told you many times.

 

[kekaro]

I just realised if Sanji came out of time skip with his current mindset, then he would have been too strong

He would solo FI to WCI all by himself, there’s a reason Oda took his time with Sanji

Nerfed for the plot, it is what it is

 

[SakazOuki]

Yeah Doggo somehow talked L57 into 1 year avi bet lol

Respect for L59 for staying here and honoring the bet instead of just dipping like some temple bros did after Zkk failed

I don’t think the word respect is part of L57’s vocabulary

 

[mmd]

You know what the funniest thing is? Sanji could probably block all of Zoro’s attacks that use Koh.
It reminds me of that argument between Zoro and Sanji after Wano, where people were saying that if Zoro had used CoC, he could have killed Sanji.

 

[Luslec]

Nerfed for the plot, it is what it is

At what cost, all those years we endure

Bumji should have listened to master iva-chin

 

[S.W317]

So I’m not sure, if Sanji is still not aware he’s using CoC then he can’t use it at will, meaning he’s only as powerful as pre-CoC control Zoro, right?

 

[Julius]

This is odd

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2115835085677265028

 

[Rumble]

Nah, fuck all that.

These bums are worse than the sword swallowers they think they're better than.

 

[Z-Saber]

So I’m not sure, if Sanji is still not aware he’s using CoC then he can’t use it at will, meaning he’s only as powerful as pre-CoC control Zoro, right?

Unfortunately, Sanji's character writing isn't dogshit so I doubt Oda would take the same route with him. This dumb horse dude clearly said the omen armor can only be broken by conqueror's haki so logically, Sanji breaking it should mean he's aware that he's using it.

 

[mmd]

So I’m not sure, if Sanji is still not aware he’s using CoC then he can’t use it at will, meaning he’s only as powerful as pre-CoC control Zoro, right?

If you look at the story logically—assuming Oda adheres to that logic—Sanji ought to be aware of his own Conqueror's Haki (CoC). Gaban touched upon this, and furthermore, CoC is necessary to defeat Hk; Sanji himself has also made remarks regarding this.
Therefore, it can be concluded that Sanji must be aware of it.

 

[Etemenanki]

This was probably unaware use of CoC, btw.
Similar to Zoro's Ashura against Kaido.

 

[Rumble]

So I’m not sure, if Sanji is still not aware he’s using CoC then he can’t use it at will, meaning he’s only as powerful as pre-CoC control Zoro, right?

He wasn't aware at the start of the chapter. That's why I'm not buying this improved CoA bit.

After he resolves to be Luffy's shield, it should be obvious to him.

 

[Necrohol]

Zoro and Sanji are finally admiral level 🥹

 

[Z-Saber]

If you look at the story logically—assuming Oda adheres to that logic—Sanji ought to be aware of his own Conqueror's Haki (CoC). Gaban touched upon this, and furthermore, CoC is necessary to defeat Hk; Sanji himself has also made remarks regarding this.
Therefore, it can be concluded that Sanji must be aware of it.

This and Sanji also remarks that armament haki is too weak to deal with the holy knights.

 

[Rumble]

Sanji ought to be aware of his own Conqueror's Haki

Killingham is shown to believe he doesn't, and Sanji is shown claiming to break Killingham's neck repeatedly to make him wish for death as an alternative.

It's not until the end of the chapter that he properly unleashes his Conqueror's.

He should know about it in the final page/1198.

 

[Doggo]

Yeah Doggo somehow talked L57 into 1 year avi bet lol

Respect for L59 for staying here and honoring the bet instead of just dipping like some temple bros did after Zkk failed

He actually talked himself into it.
I just tossed some gasoline into the fire.

 

[GeneralP123]

I just realised if Sanji came out of time skip with his current mindset, then he would have been too strong

He would solo FI to WCI all by himself, there’s a reason Oda took his time with Sanji

Would've unironically been the strongest SH.

 

[Excelsion]

10/10 chapter.