General & Others Will Sanji Be The Final Strawhat to Unlock Conquerors Haki ?

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#61
If you ask me I don't think anyone except Luffy (PK Dream) and Zoro (WSS Dream) should have it. Sanjis is a total ass pull as he has never showed any kingly ambitions (oh no, now they will come after me).

Oda is moving the goal posts so I for one would not be surprised if in the end there are 4, 5, 6 or even 10 CoC users in the crew. Yamato is the 4th. Jinbei, if he accepts that he is a leader and not a servant, could be the 5th. He is kind of in the Zoro category of willingly accepting Fisher Tiger and WB, his benefactors, as his leaders but everybody else but himself views him as a true leader. Usopp if he ever decides to man up can be the 6th (although it would feel terrible to have him grouped with all these giants).

I think Oda will dilute it. The same goes for some outside the crew that should have no business being conquerors yet they are.
Usopp... A Brave warrior of the sea
 
#62
If you ask me I don't think anyone except Luffy (PK Dream) and Zoro (WSS Dream) should have it. Sanjis is a total ass pull as he has never showed any kingly ambitions (oh no, now they will come after me).

Oda is moving the goal posts so I for one would not be surprised if in the end there are 4, 5, 6 or even 10 CoC users in the crew. Yamato is the 4th. Jinbei, if he accepts that he is a leader and not a servant, could be the 5th. He is kind of in the Zoro category of willingly accepting Fisher Tiger and WB, his benefactors, as his leaders but everybody else but himself views him as a true leader. Usopp if he ever decides to man up can be the 6th (although it would feel terrible to have him grouped with all these giants).

I think Oda will dilute it. The same goes for some outside the crew that should have no business being conquerors yet they are.
Zoro and Sanji will be Yonko level people. Why wouldn't they have it?

If Rayleigh had it, so will Gaban, and so will Zoro/Sanji. Saying "anyone will get it" is dumb.
 
#65
Conqueror's doesn't fit my established headcanon so muh asspull muh...:risitameh:
Only my idolos zori-chin and luffy-chin can be part of this illustrous club muh muh....:dogkek:
Conquerors was gucci when there was clear contradictions to your brain dead assumptions but when Sanji gets it becomes a asspull:milaugh:
All I gotta to say you mofos is...
:cryabit:
What ambitions did Katakuri have again?
I love these headcanon always because it exposes who can read and who can not
"Dreams and their scale dictate how you get coc"
Whitebeard, WSM (canonically above WSS) stated his own dream: Have a family
Shanks, the guy with the biggest haki feats, true ambition in life (own words): "Gaban-San, i just want to sail the world around with Buggy"

By that logic Sanji coc must be 1000000x bigger than theirs cause its on the same scale as Rogers before he found Laugh Tale, which no one believes exists yet

:gokulaugh:

If anything odas messaging so far, which is confirmed agains with the zoros chapter and his awakening that its more about oneself and not ambition, its internal not external.

What makes a man great and worthy of having COC is something that totally goes against their idea and what they think makes a conqueror, and it has some funny implications, but that conversation is way above their pay grade not even understanding the basics before we move to subtext:myman:
 
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#68
honestly need Toadgashi or someone to make a meme of Sanji CoC dunking on all these fools head tops coz they deserve that shit after all the brain rot they put us through over the years:risitameh:
It’s even more hilarious that Oda actually got in his bag & put in so much work into writing Sanji’s CoC awakening, so much so that he’s prolly the first character in the series to have two whole chapters wholly dedicated to him back to back, making it so memorable that these fools never forget it :kobeha:
 
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#69
honestly need Toadgashi or someone to make a meme of Sanji CoC dunking on all these fools head tops coz they deserve that shit after all the brain rot they put us through over the years:risitameh:
It’s even more hilarious that Oda actually got in his bag & put in so much work into writing Sanji’s CoC awakening, so much so that he’s prolly the first character in the series to have two whole chapters wholly dedicated so him back to back, making it so memorable that these fools never forget it :kobeha:
"Sanji is unimportant"
"Left hand doesnt exist"
"Sanji has no coc"
"Sanji is bad with haki"
"Oda hates Sanji"


Oda this arc to the headcanon brigade:

 
#70
What ambitions did Katakuri have again?
Katakuri is similar to WB and Hancock - They are not conquerors in the sense that they necessarily want to conquer parts of the world. They are however willing to go to extreme lengths for their families and their territories.

Though, due to Big Moms presence, Katakuri was actively nerfing his own ambitions of ruling the WCI Kingdom of 100+ islands (in his mind protecting the family/territories but in effect he would need to be the King/Conquerors of the area).

Please tell me the kingly ambitions of the following:
Oden
Whitebeard
Katakuri
Yamato
Rayleigh
Gaban
Harald
Shanks
Garp
Oden - Ambition to live as freely as possible, not accepting his role in life as heir of Kingdom. Natural charisma to gain followers but he did NOT want to rule. Finally accepted that in order to protect Wano, his retainers and to open the borders he HAD to become a conqueror.

Whitebeard - People were drawn to him but he did NOT want to lead. Even at 36 was a follower/semi independent under/besides Xebec. Finally accepted that in order to protect his family, his territory and his friends/allies territories he HAD to become a conqueror.

Katakuri - See above.

Yamato - Basically same as Oden.

Rayleigh - Still unknown. Would make sense if his ambition was to be WSS standing on top of swordsmen. You know the similar coat to Mihawk. Otherwise nothing sets him apart from for example Jinbei when he was #2 under Fisher Tiger. Wanted, and succeeded, in conquering women I suppose though initially very shy around Shakky.

Gaban - Absolutely no kingly ambitions except help Roger. Wanted, and succeeded, in conquering women I suppose.

Harald - Imu himself was in chock. This guy had natural charisma making people drawn to him but he was basically bending the knee and refusing to rule independently.

Shanks - Wants to overthrow WG/Imu and to become the most free guy on the planet. Also to conquer/protect all his and his friends territories.

Garp - Would be better off as a pirate like Xebec said. In conflict with himself as seen during Marineford. I suppose he wants to be a good guy, i.e. Marines, but he hates the top brass and often goes against their orders showcasing that he is a free and independent thinker. Sometimes he has to follow company line. Like Kizaru recently, or Aokiji and Dragon prior, there is a lesson of one perhaps being able to achieve more outside the system than within it if one has kingly ambitions.

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So. There are different shades of conquerors here. Some perhaps should not even be conquerors. Some that dont have conquerors should have the potential for it, like the guy in my avatar.
 
#73
Katakuri is similar to WB and Hancock - They are not conquerors in the sense that they necessarily want to conquer parts of the world. They are however willing to go to extreme lengths for their families and their territories.

Though, due to Big Moms presence, Katakuri was actively nerfing his own ambitions of ruling the WCI Kingdom of 100+ islands (in his mind protecting the family/territories but in effect he would need to be the King/Conquerors of the area).



Oden - Ambition to live as freely as possible, not accepting his role in life as heir of Kingdom. Natural charisma to gain followers but he did NOT want to rule. Finally accepted that in order to protect Wano, his retainers and to open the borders he HAD to become a conqueror.

Whitebeard - People were drawn to him but he did NOT want to lead. Even at 36 was a follower/semi independent under/besides Xebec. Finally accepted that in order to protect his family, his territory and his friends/allies territories he HAD to become a conqueror.

Katakuri - See above.

Yamato - Basically same as Oden.

Rayleigh - Still unknown. Would make sense if his ambition was to be WSS standing on top of swordsmen. You know the similar coat to Mihawk. Otherwise nothing sets him apart from for example Jinbei when he was #2 under Fisher Tiger. Wanted, and succeeded, in conquering women I suppose though initially very shy around Shakky.

Gaban - Absolutely no kingly ambitions except help Roger. Wanted, and succeeded, in conquering women I suppose.

Harald - Imu himself was in chock. This guy had natural charisma making people drawn to him but he was basically bending the knee and refusing to rule independently.

Shanks - Wants to overthrow WG/Imu and to become the most free guy on the planet. Also to conquer/protect all his and his friends territories.

Garp - Would be better off as a pirate like Xebec said. In conflict with himself as seen during Marineford. I suppose he wants to be a good guy, i.e. Marines, but he hates the top brass and often goes against their orders showcasing that he is a free and independent thinker. Sometimes he has to follow company line. Like Kizaru recently, or Aokiji and Dragon prior, there is a lesson of one perhaps being able to achieve more outside the system than within it if one has kingly ambitions.

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So. There are different shades of conquerors here. Some perhaps should not even be conquerors. Some that dont have conquerors should have the potential for it, like the guy in my avatar.
Literally the same thing you said about natural charisma and people being drawn to him can be said about Sanji.

Like what you said about Whitebeard is literally exactly what the point of Sanji accepting himself as Luffys shield is lmao
 
#75
Anyways all of this so called conqueror’s criteria aside, expectation has always been Luffy, Zoro, Sanji, Usopp & reckon that’s what we’ll prolly get when the series is done.
Sanji’s awakening was fire and I expect Ussop’s to be awesome in a similar vein as I reckon we ‘d also see some character development there ^^

Also considering these 4 are the only ones that have gotten any sort of Haki development it checks out on that end as well.

Not sure why folks think Nami’s gonna get it but assuming she does, it’s hard to imagine she awakens it in combat so will prolly be in a gag type situation like we got on the ship post Wano :risisweat:
 
#77
Same reason why they Said shebis the gaban parallel or "Main Trio" member

Eternal copium :cryabit:
There’s defo some crying going on from the usual suspeks
Sanji got it muh…so give it everybody else muh
:risitameh:
but mandem like Yash is saying maybe Nami so it’s oddly not only them. Maybe it’s the whole ting about the whole east blue 5 getting it but not really sure why that’d be the case.
 
#78
There’s defo some crying going on from the usual suspeks
Sanji got it muh…so give it everybody else muh
:risitameh:
but mandem like Yash is saying maybe Nami so it’s oddly not only them. Maybe it’s the whole ting about the whole east blue 5 getting it but not really sure why that’d be the case.
I guess is also just a popular vibe Thing that all the og5 east blue members will get it cause they like them


I find Nami also fitting however vs usopp

Like usopp Standing Up to Luffy (No Matter how misguided He was) in EL alone is such a significant hint
 
#79
Anyways all of this so called conqueror’s criteria aside, expectation has always been Luffy, Zoro, Sanji, Usopp & reckon that’s what we’ll prolly get when the series is done.
Sanji’s awakening was fire and I expect Ussop’s to be awesome in a similar vein as I reckon we ‘d also see some character development there ^^

Also considering these 4 are the only ones that have gotten any sort of Haki development it checks out on that end as well.

Not sure why folks think Nami’s gonna get it but assuming she does, it’s hard to imagine she awakens it in combat so will prolly be in a gag type situation like we got on the ship post Wano :risisweat:
A chapter dedicated to Usopp getting conquerors is hard to imagine, especially the advanced application.
 
#80
A chapter dedicated to Usopp getting conquerors is hard to imagine, especially the advanced application.
Not sure we get full chapter focus like we did with Sanji (wouldn't mind it personally) but I can defo see him awakening it at the height of his bravery in order to save Luffy. Sanji and Zoro are Luffy's wings who usually heavy carry for the SHs so I think it'd be dope if we get a scenario where those two fight valiantly to protect Luffy and end up falling short and in that helplessness Usopp gathers the courage to somehow move the needle and with that he awakens CoC and also becomes a brave warrior of the sea :steef:
 
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