Powers & Abilities Do Cursed Swords Confirm CoC Users?

Salah WG

Salah WG

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After seeing Sanji unlock CoC, I realized that Oda can still give Characters this Haki even if He didn't strongly Hint at it before.
I'm not talking about Character Treats, but I'm talking about Scenes similar to Urashima talking about Zoro Aura or Brook mistaking an Earthquake for Zoro CoC ... etc

Automatically this lead me to change my mind regarding Law, and imo if Monster Trio all have CoC, then Supernova Trio and Brothers Trio should all have it too, mainly Law and Sabo, then I remembered how Law similar to Zoro have a Cursed Sword, and how such Swords test their Owners and cannot be wielded by the Weak,

Zoro tamed Enma even though He didn't realize He had Haoshoku Haki and that clearly proves that Sword only needs to feel you have CoC even if you aren't aware of it nor control it. Kin'emon also said that He wouldn't dare wield Enma, and Kin'emon is no weakling, He knows CoA very well, He learned Oden Sword Style on top of his own and if not for Time Travel, He is a Top Commander Fighter no different than Denjiro or Mink Duo,

This leads to believe that Cursed Swords rejecting Weaklings isn't referring to Power Level, but actually their Spirit, meaning Only CoC Users can wield Cursed Blades. Zoro, Nusjuro, Oden are CoC Users, I think this Theory also confirms Law as a CoC User, and among other Swordsmen, I think Shiryu's Sword is hinted to be Cursed and same for Durandal,

I believe Law, Shiryu and Hakuba (Not Cavendish, only Hakuba) are CoC Users, until Oda reveal more Cursed Blades.
PS: This doesn't mean All CoC Swordsmen have Cursed Blades.
 
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OykotsTreasure

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Well, it probably means they're at least close to unlocking their CoC.

I've talked a little about it before, but it seems like Haki is necessary to create a Black Blade. And most Cursed Swords seem to be "hungry" for Haki, and need to be fed in order to be used at their highest level.
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/how-ratatoskr-fused-with-ragnir.79074/#post-6594207
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...tarving-imus-hungry-blades-must-be-fed.86239/

So, it would kind of make sense that "Cursed Swords" are the ones who are at least close to becoming a Black Blade. And need more Haki from their wielder in order to satisfy their "hunger". So, it would make sense that Cursed Swords are only interested in people with high amounts of Haki, and usually Conquerors users are the ones with the highest amount of Haki around.

Cursed Swords probably only "respect" those with high amounts of Haki, because their original owners who "engraved" them with their own souls and Haki probably had high amounts of Haki themselves. Cursed Swords are accustomed to "owners" who keep them "well fed". Anyone who can't "feed" them properly gets "bitten".

So, I think it's more of a indication that the user has a high amount of Haki. Enough to satisfy the "hunger" of a Cursed Sword. But, having high amounts of Haki also usually leads to unlocking Conqueror's. Because it's all willpower at the end of the day. So, the two are correlated, but maybe not directly linked, per se. But, that might be splitting hairs.
 
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Boing

Boing

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Salah WG said:
After seeing Sanji unlock CoC, I realized that Oda can still give Characters this Haki even if He didn't strongly Hint at it before.
I'm not talking about Character Treats, but I'm talking about Scenes similar to Urashima talking about Zoro Aura or Brook mistaking an Earthquake for Zoro CoC ... etc

Automatically this lead me to change my mind regarding Law, and imo if Monster Trio all have CoC, then Supernova Trio and Brothers Trio should all have it too, mainly Law and Sabo, then I remembered how Law similar to Zoro have a Cursed Sword, and how such Swords test their Owners and cannot be wielded by the Weak,

Zoro tamed Enma even though He didn't realize He had Haoshoku Haki and that clearly proves that Sword only needs to feel you have CoC even if you aren't aware of it nor control it. Kin'emon also said that He wouldn't dare wield Enma, and Kin'emon is no weakling, He knows CoA very well, He learned Oden Sword Style on top of his own and if not for Time Travel, He is a Top Commander Fighter no different than Denjiro or Mink Duo,

This leads to believe that Cursed Swords rejecting Weaklings isn't referring to Power Level, but actually their Spirit, meaning Only CoC Users can wield Cursed Blades. Zoro, Nusjuro, Oden are CoC Users, I think this Theory also confirms Law as a CoC User, and among other Swordsmen, I think Shiryu's Sword is hinted to be Cursed and same for Durandal,

I believe Law, Shiryu and Hakuba (Not Cavendish, only Hakuba) are CoC Users, until Oda reveal more Cursed Blades.
PS: This doesn't mean All CoC Swordsmen have Cursed Blades.
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So Cavendish was able to assert his will over Hakuba's but Hakub is a conqueror and Cavendish isn't?
 
M944

M944

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TBH I'm watching OP again and it’s perfectly coherent for Sanji to be a CoC user
Pre TS is a leader (not luffy type) but is a real leader he wants to protect people he loves and what is a king if he can’t do that. That’s what the manga says several times

The mistake people does is considering a king someone who wants to be the best which is false
 
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chacharealsmooth

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I get what you are saying. A better wording would be “Are cursed swords associated with those who have the potential to awaken/awakened CoC?”.

After all, not everyone with the potential to awaken their CoC does so, at least, that is what Gaban heavily implies too.

Maybe these swords cling themselves to those with the potential to extend their willpower. But yes, cursed swords have their own will/feisty temper and look for those with strong wills (=Haki)
 
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