minamotook got it...so u r a old NB felow..rite???..
Kizaruber EatsNarutobase right? I never joined there but Ive seen you guys talk about it on here and tobidara and such. Ive only been on Oro Jackson before and some OP discord servers for some OP Youtubers before here. I used OneManga but never their forums though.
minamotonvm almost forgot that tobidara was top1 famous theory..
Kizaruber EatsYeah I was a big fan of it hearing it elsewhere online, I used to be a MUCH bigger Naruto fan than I am now and Tobi is one of my fave characters. I always believed in the Tobito truth like Dabi and Touya in MHA but nobody in the circles I was in believed about Tobi being Obito lmao. It was so obvious and yet they didnt believe.
But ive seen Tobidara mentioned here and there on here too.
minamotoafter the fake obito reveal..when edomadara joined obito in teh battlefield..there was a manga panel where obito froze (sign of being under controll) then madara looked at obito's zetsu arm said : " well if it's YOU..then YOU must have a PLAN"..chapter 601...
there was someone sealed inside obito controlling him..remember how 6 zetsus came out of sasuke's body without sasuke even know realizing this???...
minamotoalso think how smart were itachi and kisame..u think they could be fooled by someone naive like obito???...kisame saw tobi's face more then once and always called him madara..
if obito was indeed the boss mastermind tobi then why didn't kishimoto explain that in obito reveal flashbacks..kishi saved this part for the final tobidara reveal...
THE MYSTERY OF TOBI ISN'T OVER..
Kizaruber EatsOh damn thats really interesting, I do remember that vaguely and was pretty confused by it. Yeah I remember the Zetsus too, damn....
Huh, thats gonna require some thinking about and researching now too. Some theorising.
Kizaruber EatsYeah thats right! I remember Kisame meeting Tobi and its strange he would call him Madara if he saw his face ofc!
Do you think this is why Tobi changed his mask too? That was weird for me too. Thats really interesting damn. I did feel there was something off with that storyline but I wasnt sure why, it didnt fully make sense to me.
Its one thing to assume Kisame could get fooled ofc, hes def too smart/cautious
Kizaruber Eatsbut Itachi being fooled makes zero sense especially, the one character most people at least said was too OP/too plot armoured and thus complained about lmao. Aside from Madara himself and such. Uchihas are just something else indeed ofc.
Even crazier that they both ran from Jiraiya too, which still feels kinda odd to me, like blackbeard running from Rayleigh of all people.
minamotoThere something that dont make sense and huge portions of truth missing..for exemple think about it..why would old madara in the cave wanrt to die and then get revived???..who would want to die???..the act of dying then getting revived was meant for a mysterious purpoze..now let me remind u of a certain chapter i think 560..where edo madara mentioned about his body secrets engraved in teh uchiha stone..
minamotoor how about whn tobi faced konan and called her GIRLY..konan is older then bobito..
also tell me if obito was indeed the boss mastermind tobi then why would tobi lie to konan when he was sure konan was gonna die..WHY WOULD OBITO HAVE FLASHBACKS OF MADARA FIGHTING HASHIRAMA??? HUH???..
remmeber how tobi was so proud of his ID to be uchiha madara..that can't be obito bro..
Kizaruber EatsYeah that really bothered me too! Why wouldnt he seek some way to get immortal like Orochimaru and get young again too? Oooh damn, thats interesting, you are getting me interested in Naruto again, damn hahaha! Madara plotting to come back as an Edo Tensei or w/e just seems so backwards and unlike him, it doesnt make sense.
I wonder if this could come up in Boruto eventually or something?
Kizaruber EatsThats an excellent point, damn. Didnt Madara have siblings who died vs the war with the Senju or something IIRC? That doesnt make sense now you mention it, thats so weird. I was so shocked over Konans death at the time, so I never thought about it but now you've blown my mind harder than she tried to blow up "Tobi" lmao.
With all the shit the Rinnegan can do too, this does feel like we're not getting the whole
Kizaruber Eatstruth/picture and we may as well be under the tsukiyomi/genjutsu or w/e instead.
Yeah as much as I was satisfied it was Obito at the same time it felt off/wrong like I refused to believe the Tobi we saw all along originally was Obito, it didnt make sense at all to me. But the name and the eye hole on the mask and his fixation on Kakashi made me think he was Obito too. Even though I refused to believe Obito could
Man this is is really messing with my mind now lol, did Kishi gaslight the hell out of us then in the end?
minamototrue..also shall i go on???...tell me why would obito sit on madara's valley of end statue???..Fuckin kishimoto purposly skipped the kismme meeting tobi flashbacks WHY KISHIMOTO hahahaha..
Kizaruber EatsYeah that was weird, we barely saw anything of that. Then Kishi purposely killed off Kisame just like that and he never came back even as Edo Tensei IIRC? Wasnt that other 7 Swordsman who Kisame knew, manipulated by "Tobidara" in the first place too? I forgot his name though.
Obito sitting on Madaras statue is very telling too, I mean I may understand why but it is very odd too otherwise. So much to process here...
minamotoMasked tobi showed knowledge it was imposible for obito to have..one exemple is when tobi fought 2 of danzo bodyguards..tobi asumed one of them must be son of aburame shiruki (dont remember the name )..
when tobi unsealed kiyubi from kushina's belly..kiyubi said : "YOU..!!"...this implies that kurama seemed to recognize the man behind the mask to be same one who controlled him during battle madara vs hashirama..
Kizaruber EatsAh yeah, one of the guys was an Aburame yeah I remember that.
Oh shit! I didnt remember that with Kyuubi, thats WILD! Holy fuck that changes EVERYTHING, now that a bombshell! A bijuu bombshell even! My head is spinning now lol.
Its making the Obito reveal seem more like a retcon then or theres some bigger twist to it that we dont know about and Kishi didnt get to do or is saving for later somehow?
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