Worstgen

Does Oda suck at portrayal or is this notoriously incorrect fanbase incorrect once again? Lol

Fujishiro

Ok so according to your logic BB with 2 fruits before he became Emperor washed Prime Marco who is stronger then Prime Rayleigh > Old rayleigh> Yonko BB

I dont think you realize how ridiculous you are right now lmfao.

Fujishiro

Old Rays portrayal comes from his Prime self, his reputation and strength, so great that Garp compared him to WB, that it made Yonko bb who destroyed the WBP pirates that were not in their teens anymore shit his pants and retreat. Those are the facts.

Elder Lee Hung

I haven’t made any definitive claims about Rayleigh’s strength though Fuji. That was done by you. All I’m saying is under zero circumstances would any Admiral fail to defeat an unserious Marco after 3 days of combat. Lol

Fujishiro

Yeah they would, if Oda makes it a friendly battle. And plot restricts them. Like GB not negging Morley lol.

Fujishiro

Youre the one making these strength claims in the vs threads lol wdym youve made no definitive claim.

Elder Lee Hung

GB wasn’t trying to neg Morley, he was trying to get him to reveal the location of Dragon. Lol

Unserious Admirals neg King and Queen bro, they don’t fail to beat teen Marco after 3 days. Lmfao

soupongo

Friendly battles can have losers though

soupongo

But anyway, I think its only fair to wait for the God Valley flashback to really judge Prime Rayleigh and Gaban

Fujishiro

Ah yes, here come the excuses. But excuses are fine for Admirals but they arent for anybody else right Lee.

And I thought this wasnt about strength? Do you understand what Plot is? If its a friendly fight why would he have to defeat teen Marco?

soupongo

I don't know what the exact difference is but if the Roger pirates are like 30ish years older then the Whitbeard pirates Jr, Thats pretty much like fighting your younger cousins at a family party or something lmao.

They still could have gotten some W tho.....

Fujishiro

Why lol, its like bullying your friends. The fight was more about stealing each others treasure while Roger and WB greet each other and clash a bit.

Elder Lee Hung

What excuse can you even make for Rayleigh? “He wasn’t trying?” Okay, neither was Marco lol. What other excuses could even apply for him? Ryokugyu is literally screaming at Morley to tell him where Dragon was, why would GB kill/beat Morley before he had that answer? Lol

Elder Lee Hung

I don’t see how you can even make an excuse for Rayleigh. Oda himself didn’t even try to make an excuse for Rayleigh.

Fujishiro

The perfect one, it was a friendly greeting. No need for him to bully kids and teens.

Fujishiro

Because Oda didnt feel there was a need to since it was obviously a friendly greeting where they after that all sat down and chilled and ate together. They are friends, not foes.

Elder Lee Hung

Bro. The same thing applies to the kids. They had no reason to try and hurt Rayleigh or fight him seriously…why are you ignoring that part of it? Lol

soupongo

Right, so if its not a serious fight, why would we use it to scale?

Fujishiro

We established that Ray wouldve washed Teen Marco and Kid Jozu since his old self scared BB shitless, same BB who pre Emperor washed the WBPs in their prime minus Jozuz arm. So what are you arguing with here lol? Im not ignoring it, youre making a big deal out of it like they would hurt him when logically with ABC math its obvious that they cant.

Elder Lee Hung

Again you are reading far, far more into my comment than I ever said lol. I never said teen Marco would beat Rayleigh. What I did say is that teen Marco loses to an Admiral in 30 minutes or less, the rookie Whitebeard Pirates could never push an Admiral to 3 days of combat bro.