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Sentinel
Roger told the navy fodders he wanted to fight Garp and Sengoku. The latter viewed Kuzan as a solid replacement for the FA position and Akainu beat him to it. Does it mean Kuzan was generally too weak to become FA? No. Akainu was simply stronger. The same Kuzan won't high diff Fujitora and Greenbull. That's literally against the narrative.
Sentinel
Fujitora and Greenbull joining the navy made them stronger, not the contrast.
So current gen navy > previous gen navy. Both Fujitora and Greenbull were called monsters and the fact that Roger 2.0 was needed to stop Aramaki from finishing off the alliance is all you need to know imo.
So current gen navy > previous gen navy. Both Fujitora and Greenbull were called monsters and the fact that Roger 2.0 was needed to stop Aramaki from finishing off the alliance is all you need to know imo.
Fujishiro
We dont know if GB forged his blade btw, also kinda disagree about logia awakening making ACoC look weak.
> the fact that Roger 2.0 was needed to stop Aramaki from finishing off the alliance needs all you need to know imo.
You cant seriously be thinking GB wouldve won against the entire alliance, Luffy and the others were chilling watching Momo and co stop him.
> the fact that Roger 2.0 was needed to stop Aramaki from finishing off the alliance needs all you need to know imo.
You cant seriously be thinking GB wouldve won against the entire alliance, Luffy and the others were chilling watching Momo and co stop him.
Fujishiro
Which yes Momo and co didnt stop him but Luffy and co were going to intervene had Shanks not stopped GB.
Elder Lee Hung
@Fujishiro would you agree that Kizaru looked fine against Luffy? If so, that bodes well for the Ryokugyu vs Luffy matchup as Ryokugyu is basically like Kizaru but he would have actually wanted to kill Luffy lol.
Honestly Ryokugyu wouldn’t have been able to take Luffy’s head if the whole alliance ganged up on him but vs Luffy alone is he absolutely a big threat lol.
Honestly Ryokugyu wouldn’t have been able to take Luffy’s head if the whole alliance ganged up on him but vs Luffy alone is he absolutely a big threat lol.
Fujishiro
Yes but Luffy barely seriously hit him.
Sure but then he would have to deal with no just Luffy but the rest. And while his fruit is good against crowds its too much lol.
Atleast we agree on this lol.
Sure but then he would have to deal with no just Luffy but the rest. And while his fruit is good against crowds its too much lol.
Atleast we agree on this lol.
Elder Lee Hung
Bruh WSG is the second most advanced Gear 5 technique we’ve seen and it didn’t even damage Kizaru lol. This is in addition to Luffy hitting Kizaru with multiple other Gear 5 blows and the Marimes at the end of the arc still confirmed that Kizaru wasn’t wounded.
Ryokugyu is a more durability focused Admiral than Kizaru is btw.
Ryokugyu is a more durability focused Admiral than Kizaru is btw.
Fujishiro
I know you and I will disagree on this but I really dont think WSG was meant to damage, its a stun. Thats it. Its like a cartoon style concussion when they get hit in the head, they dont bleed, theyre just stunned for a bit. Kizaru says ''Im seiing....stars!!!'' when hes hit by it, there are cartoon stars floating above him,etc.
Thats my take on it.
Thats my take on it.
Sentinel
An injured Luffy and Zoro definitely isn't putting down fresh Aramaki, that's why Shanks was interrupting Aramaki in the first place. Luffy barely won against Kaido who was already heavily weakened from taking approximately 100 hits from several enemies.
Elder Lee Hung
How would one even intend for a punch to stun vs damage lmfao. How would that even work. Luffy cracked Kizaru right in the temple with visual AdCoC + Muscle inflation + spinning to build momentum. How is that intended to stun lol.
Anyway Ryokugyu tanked Yamato’s Haki which matched Kaido’s with no damage, I would wager that he is probably more durable than Kizaru.
Anyway Ryokugyu tanked Yamato’s Haki which matched Kaido’s with no damage, I would wager that he is probably more durable than Kizaru.
Sentinel
As for logia awakening, it's literally the peak of the strongest DF type and the last one to show.
I think so highly of logia awakening, I legit think Kuzan will show absolute zero and Akainu showing hell magma which burns literally everything. There's so high potential about logia awakening.
So yes, I'd put it above the ability to coat your attacks with CoC.
I think so highly of logia awakening, I legit think Kuzan will show absolute zero and Akainu showing hell magma which burns literally everything. There's so high potential about logia awakening.
So yes, I'd put it above the ability to coat your attacks with CoC.
Sentinel
Nah, Luffy didn't stun Kizaru - this attack was an even bulkier version of the one used against Kaido, so it is logically stronger. If the star effects are for the stun, then I believe it's both stun + damage.
Fujishiro
>How would one even intend for a punch to stun vs damage lmfao.
Reality warping, Luffy in G5 was grabbing lightning and playing rope with it lol. Youre attempting to apply logic when G5 defies logic.
Reality warping, Luffy in G5 was grabbing lightning and playing rope with it lol. Youre attempting to apply logic when G5 defies logic.
Elder Lee Hung
You are waaaaaaaaay outside the boundaries of what Gear 5’s reality warping can do lmfao. We know he can manipulate objects like they are rubber, in no way can he change the property of a brute strength punching attack lmfao.
Sentinel
I was expecting White Star Gun to deal significant damage to Kizaru because I did think he isn't as tanky as Kaido (which is his best stat) but the fact that Kizaru ended up with virtually no serious injuries post Egghead sealed the deal for me. He took WSG like a champ.
Fujishiro
>You are waaaaaaaaay outside the boundaries of what Gear 5’s reality warping can do lmfao.
Am I? He rubberized Kizarus head and scrambled his brain, there explains why he took no blunt damage but was immobilized for a bit.
Am I? He rubberized Kizarus head and scrambled his brain, there explains why he took no blunt damage but was immobilized for a bit.
Fujishiro
I cant wait years from now where Kizaru takes damage from an attack clearly weaker then WSG to finally prove my point. I mean we have one in the second Luffy squeeze that made Kizaru splurt out blood vs WSG but I know your excuse for that, youll say he was mentally nerfed and thus his durability was lessened lol.
Elder Lee Hung
You are. He hit Kaido with a visually similar but less advanced attack and Kaido still bled from it and lie motionless for several seconds afterward. Why would Oda change the properties of Luffy’s punches with zero indication that this is what he is doing? Lol
Fujishiro
He hit Kaido from the front, not the side.
> Why would Oda change the properties of Luffy’s punches with zero indication that this is what he is doing? Lol
Named attack is my answer, in the anime hes spinning around and gets dizzy then a thought bubble pops up and he uses WSG.
> Why would Oda change the properties of Luffy’s punches with zero indication that this is what he is doing? Lol
Named attack is my answer, in the anime hes spinning around and gets dizzy then a thought bubble pops up and he uses WSG.
We still have virtually no idea how powerful logia awakening will be but I'm sure it'll make ACoC look weak in comparison.