Worstgen

Cinera

@WillOfMyD: this is a very bad bet. Zoro "showing progress"/"improving in Enma's use" is pretty vague and leaves room for interpretation. If Zoro shows something new, people can legitimately disagree on whether it was something he could have already done before.

L o g i a

@HA001 Seriously dude, just go away.

TheAncientCenturion

Y'all need to chill. It's perfectly fine to agree to disagree.

Zenos7

@HA001 i think assuming there was prolonged use in the forest is reasonable, because zoro probably wouldnt think to himself "i'll train using this sword, but ony 10 minutes at a time so l o g i a can win a bet online", but its still just an assumption, and oda definitely can expand on this in a major fight of zoro.

TheAncientCenturion

Yeah, actually. Everyone just go their own way. You've said everything you wanted to. Either take it off site or stop it.

L o g i a

@Cinera that's why I made it this way. Being so vague gives me a lot of wiggle room to move the goalposts. The point of the bet is to get rid of one of the cuntiest users on the forum. It will happen. Zoro showing anything more than one slash in one instance and then putting it away will deem me the winner

Cinera

Some folks think he unlocked hardening in DR for example. Unless Zoro clearly awakens a power or outright says: "I've gotten stronger", that ambiguity would remain.

Zenos7

@Cinera imo the way its phrased can only relate to enma, and no general progress/improvement, which is why the bet isnt won by default.

But yeah its still somewhat vague, and the parties involved wont agree on it, getting a poll on the forum wouldnt help either as there are too many zoro fans for it to be fair, i guess.

Guan Yu

Lmao, what a dumb bet. Every fighter will always improve during their fight.

L o g i a

@Cinera it's obvious they're wrong. People can make reasonable assumptions.

Zenos7

"that's why I made it this way. Being so vague gives me a lot of wiggle room to move the goalposts. "
@WillOfMyD
Already in advance saying you will try to move the goalposts. Didnt you say something about @HA001 being a pussy? but this is legit the biggest pussy move.

You think you already won by taking general improvements into account, and now you are even willing to move the goaplost to win the bet.

L o g i a

@Guan Yu exactly. So i win.

L o g i a

@Zenos7 I wont have to move the goalposts in the first place; it's an insurance policy given I made the stakes so high.

HA001

@Zenos7 its pretty simple what having mastery of a sword is.
Its been shown a few times already with zoro.
Its using the sword and it cutting what you want it to.
We saw the drawback when he attempted cut a tree not in a fight. Not only did it drain his haki it cut what he didnt want to.

Since then
We have 4 instances 1 of them being prolonged use of it. It hasnt drained him once and it cuts what he wants it to

HA001

Ergo zoro has mastered enma.

Zenos7

if you dont have to move the goalpost anyway, why are you preparing for it in advance? Lmfao

L o g i a

@HA001 what part of fuck off don't you understand?

L o g i a

@Zenos7 I don't think you understood the intention of the bet. I'm getting rid of one of the biggest shitstains on the forum. It's not a matter of pride or prediction. If the definition is broad, it's a certain eventuality which, in turn, fulfils the purpose of the bet

Zenos7

so i took the screenshot of the bet from the spoilers thread. The way you phrased it, it is very obviously only regarding improvement in relation to enma. If there is only general improvement (like haki blooming in extreme fights for example), this bet would then not be won by you.

Cinera

@WillOfMyD: that is a shocking level of bad faith engagement.

At any rate, I have no personal stake in this, and I'll comment on if Zoro grew during his next 1 vs 1 fight.