Worstgen
Cinera
G2/G3 Luffy (who barely qualifies as a low high tier if even that) could also push him back (even though he blocked the attack) and he took some damage (albeit insignificant). I find it hard to imagine other top tiers having similar encounters even while casual. Linlin has been much more disastrous, but she's been so terrible I rarely powerscale her.
Cinera
I guess it would be hypocritical of me to downgrade Issho because of Dressrosa but not Linlin. I think the other salient point is that Issho (with another admiral as back up) also got roughed up fighting Sabo (and three other opponents that have inferior portrayal to Ivankov. Sakazuki and Kuzan vs Katakuri and 3 Ivankovs should be a curbstomp in the admirals favour.
Cinera
That it wasn't suggests that some of the below are true:
* Sabo is significantly stronger than Katakuri.
* Issho/Ryokugyu are significantly weaker than Sakazuki/Kuzan.
* The rev commanders are (despite their inferior portrayal) superior to Ivankov.
* Sabo is significantly stronger than Katakuri.
* Issho/Ryokugyu are significantly weaker than Sakazuki/Kuzan.
* The rev commanders are (despite their inferior portrayal) superior to Ivankov.
Cinera
In the two appearances we've seen of him, Issho has been considerably less impressive than Sakazuki was preskip.
yj
That casual island level feat he pulled was no joke.it might just be me but he showed to be the most impressive admiral to date.
Elder Lee Hung
Mihawk got blocked by Crocodile and had several of his attacks dodged and tanked by Luffy. At least Fujitora (while restraining his power the entire time) still matched Zoro when he wasn’t caught off guard.
Cinera
@Admiral Lee Hung: Crocodile attacked Mihawk and Mihawk fended off his attack. After that, they didn't further engage each other.
Mihawk demonstrated the ability to hit Luffy mid soru, and the iceberg slash showed that if he wanted to kill Luffy, he could have done it with his first slash.
Again, not stomping your opponent is different from handling their attack poorly.
Mihawk demonstrated the ability to hit Luffy mid soru, and the iceberg slash showed that if he wanted to kill Luffy, he could have done it with his first slash.
Again, not stomping your opponent is different from handling their attack poorly.
Cinera
The Dressrosa scenes didn't bother me as much as him getting roughed up by the Revos at the Reverie. Do you think that if Sakazuki blocked an Elephant Gun from DR Luffy he would be sent flying and receive a small bruise?
Elder Lee Hung
Mihawk outright said he wouldn’t restrain himself against luffy and luffy still tanked his slashes and dodged him left and right. At least against Fuji, luffy was immune to the blunt force nature of raging tiger, and Fujitora was also holding an island above his head.
Elder Lee Hung
Mihawk’s Marineford shoeing was absolutely atrocious. Fujitora spent Dressrosa restraining his power and rooting for his enemies.
Cinera
> Mihaek outright said he wouldn’t restrain himself against luffy
The most accurate translation was: "forgive me Red Hair, this power knows no restraint".
That's not the same as "I'll not hold back", and suggests he may have intended to hold back, but his powers are very dangerous even when not holding back.
The most accurate translation was: "forgive me Red Hair, this power knows no restraint".
That's not the same as "I'll not hold back", and suggests he may have intended to hold back, but his powers are very dangerous even when not holding back.
Cinera
Anyway, I'm not bothered by Issho not low diffing Luffy. That can be chalked up to plot. It's more the effectiveness of Luffy's Elephant Gun and Zoro's nameless Itoryu slash (while heavily nerfed) that irk me.
Cinera
What do you think of his Reverie performance?
silverfire
Issho is definitely weaker than Saka. I think he’s still learning and probably has to master his fruit. Mihawk looked a little better in that he stood his ground, but he also never pushed vista into an abyss. I think both cases don’t mean much. Issho was secretly rooting for Luffy and Mihawk honestly was too.As far as the revs go I agree I couldn’t see a pair of the logia trio getting bandages from fighting them.
Yo Tan Wa
Similar opinion on Fujitora, he failed to impress me as an Admiral, his character did bt not PL wise. Yes his fruit is definitely a strong one bt aside from that he didn't look much impressive.
I have similar opinion on Mihawk in MF, technically we shouldn't be using Luffy arguments so i won't use em, bt it's also hard to see another Top tier fight ending like Mihawk-Vista did.
I have similar opinion on Mihawk in MF, technically we shouldn't be using Luffy arguments so i won't use em, bt it's also hard to see another Top tier fight ending like Mihawk-Vista did.
Yo Tan Wa
I simply nw blame Oda for this, since i definitely feel Mihawk is gonna pack in some serious feats when his time will come and will look most impressive than current Top Tiers that will see go all out, i.e Kaidou n BM.
As for BM, i think one thing that works in her favour is, she still was made into unstoppable force that had to major nerf for SHs to stand some chance and casually overpowered Queen.
As for BM, i think one thing that works in her favour is, she still was made into unstoppable force that had to major nerf for SHs to stand some chance and casually overpowered Queen.
Yo Tan Wa
Fujitora also got bandaged by Revo, and i think his abilities might have to be kept in chck for CDs home Maryjoius , and i also think most users sell Sabo short, bt Fujitora is still definitely not close to Sakazuki. This is also why i dont like arguments when fans dehype Kuzan since he isn't Admiral anymore or since he can be used to hype other Admirals, bt it can't be refuted he is second most impressive Admiral.
Finalbeta
It was actually Sabo to impress. Issho was still far from going all out lol :)