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TheAncientCenturion
I miss Kiiro lol. He was the right amount of crazy to make every other crazy user seem normal for a little while.
I see you've elevated DD lately though. I remember you saying he maxed out at YC3 and now you seem open to YC2? Above Cracker?
I see you've elevated DD lately though. I remember you saying he maxed out at YC3 and now you seem open to YC2? Above Cracker?
TheAncientCenturion
Lmfao. Don't get me started on the Zoro fandom. Had to make a new FC because @Gran D. Master saying Zoro didn't come out of the time skip > Luffy was slanderous.
Sentinel
Well, to be honest, each time when I discussed with kiiro, I literally felt how each of my brain cells just died, lmao. He was the guy who thought DD = Admirals...
Yeah, I've reread his fights on DR, his performance against a proper mid tier, if not even high mid tier (Smoker) - he literally neg diffed him. DD is an allrounder with huge versatility and if base DD isn't exactly YC3 lv, then it is at least awakening DD
Yeah, I've reread his fights on DR, his performance against a proper mid tier, if not even high mid tier (Smoker) - he literally neg diffed him. DD is an allrounder with huge versatility and if base DD isn't exactly YC3 lv, then it is at least awakening DD
Sentinel
It is still debatable whether Mingo or Cracker wins but honestly, I don't see a reason to think Mingo is in the disadvantage here against Cracker cuz of his defense.
Sentinel
The Zorofandom... I thought before that I was maybe too bias when it comes about Zoro's strength (highballing) but wow, these guys easily surpassed me lel.
TheAncientCenturion
I forgot about the DD = Fujitora thing from Kiiro lmao. That split me right down the middle with him. I'd put Dressrosa G3/G2 Luffy at Yonkou 4 -ish and I think Doflamingo was handling him pretty well. Maybe not dissing out the damage required to put him down quickly, but he had the upper hand for most of their interactions.
TheAncientCenturion
IMO, Doflamingo in base could be at the line between YC3 and YC4, with his Awakening putting him on YC2 level. Potentially higher, but I don't think you've had enough of the Young Master Coolaide first before I delve into that.
TheAncientCenturion
Before the Killer Fight, when Wano Zoro was basically featless, I said numerous times in the Discord groups that Zoro was probably YC3 All-Out. Maybe even YC2. But somehow, I got the reputation of being a Zoro hater despite that ranking. Anything below Luffy's exact level is hatred from them, can't admit inferiority to the Rubber Boy.
Sentinel
Yeah, I thought about this as well and funnily enough, when G4th wasn't revealed yet, I exactly said to @playa4321 "Man, that's totally not enough to beat him. Luffy needs something like G4 to KEEP UP WITH DD" - hence DD had a very strong impression to me that I didn't consider the slightest that G2/G3 Luffy beats him.
Sentinel
At the end, I was quite disappointed that DD was literally Blueno'ed, being a hype tool for Bound Man, even his awakening only prolonged the obvious outcome. That's why I didn't put DD that high I think.
Sentinel
Well, as I said, there's no way that DD can push guys like Kata or King on extreme diff, he's versatile as fuck, that's true but that ain't put him on their lv.
Sentinel
It baffles me how they try to prove that Zoro is stronger than his own captain. This isn't even a point of opinions, they're straight up denying the hierarchy between those two. And yes, before Enma and that Killer incident, I thought that Zoro was YC3 lv as well; I still think that.
TheAncientCenturion
I don't mind too much that Doffy was used to hype up G4. I think Oda did it respectfully enough to the character and kept his strength menacing still, even though he was being whacked around. I'd rather have a persistent villain outmatched by his enemy then a hero who, despite the odds, beats a stronger opponent.
TheAncientCenturion
Even with Enma you have him at YC3 lmao, or is that your default ranking until you see Enma in work? The Luffy vs Zoro debate can be interesting, but you hit a brick wall with a lot of users who don't want to discuss. They rely on material from chapter 114 and that's it. Whisky Peak isn't relevant anymore.
Sentinel
Well, DD's signature move "Athlete" failed to scratch him and his awakening didn't deal serious damage as well. But you're right that it'd feel odd if Luffy somehow beats a stronger opponent but imo, Oda should have shown that DD's attack pattern are still extremely dangerous for even Bound Man: showing on panel feats how DD's awakening injures Bound Man, that would be nice.
Sentinel
Well, at the end we can all say that DD was simply mortally wounded and thus, there's still the possibility that healthy DD would perform far better against Bound Man. At least that's fine.
Sentinel
Yeah, I'll wait for Enma's feats; this whole situation about Oden scarring Kaido feels odd and therefore, it is still too soon to assume Zoro will cut through him. Such things are normally designed to fail imo - e. g. Sanji baking a cake to knock Big Mom out and instead, he made her stronger, lol.
I can't do anything if people put their favourite character too high, lol.