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Dettles

Bleach peaked too early. The Soul Society Saga was actually really good. but the flaws just became more apparent after that.

Elder Lee Hung

I’m telling you man, MHA is high quality compared to most other big manga. Lol

Dettles

MHA, is basically someone who loved Naruto and was like "What if Naruto was Smart".

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MD Zolo

Haven't watched it read MHA, only had some cursory exposure to it.

But exaggerating much?!...Bleach wasn't perfect, specially at the end, but it wasn't bad either. This is blind hate, even if you have read it.

Owl Ki

@MD Zolo is that directed at me or Dettles? Lol. Either way, I do not see anything that would come under the definition of “blind hate”.

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MD Zolo

@Owl Ki, It was directed at you. If after reading 315 chapters, your opinion of Bleach is that it is a low quality manga, then were you reading with an open mind to begin with?

Because I haven't seen any people consider the first half of Bleach to be bad. In fact, most people I know liked SS and Arrancar very much.

Owl Ki

@MD Zolo Where did I say it was outright bad? Thus far I would consider it average more than anything else.

If I did not have an open mind then I would have dropped it after 50 Chapters. I am planning on reading this series in it’s entirety just so I can make a full assessment of it.

Appeal to majority/popularity does not interest me. Anyone can like anything for any reason.

Owl Ki

Liking something has nothing to do with objective quality.

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MD Zolo

Since you said that your opinion of MHA has gone up and that you were too harsh on it AFTER reading Bleach, I assumed that you consider Bleach to be bad. Am I incorrect in that assessment?

Objectively speaking then, how many failings does the first half of Bleach have and how do the manga you consider "good" compares to it?

Owl Ki

For the intention of my original statement to be wholly understood, one would need to already know of my previous opinion of MHA, which Lee does know, hence why I posted it on his profile, to let him know that my opinion of MHA has improved since we last discussed it.

As for a fist half Bleach vs MHA comparison I would need to:

I) Finish the arc of Bleach I am currently on.

II) Reread and catch up to MHA.

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MD Zolo

Yes, I accept that Lee would be able to properly understand it. But, the subtleties do give away intentions, if not 100% accurate, at least 80-90%.

So, it feels like you deflected my question. Is my assessment that you consider Bleach to be bad incorrect? It's just an honest question. If my assessment IS incorrect, then I apologise.

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MD Zolo

And I am not asking for Bleach vs. MHA because it feels that you never held very high opinion of MHA to begin with.

I am asking for a comparison between Bleach and mangas that you do hold in high regards. What are Bleach's flaws that it looks poor? Because you also said on Light's profile, that Bleach doesn't look good.

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MD Zolo

So, again, you can argue against my semantics. But was my assessment wrong?

Owl Ki

@MD Zolo currently, I would be considering Bleach as objectively average as I once regarded MHA the same way.

As for Bleach criticism, I made four posts on this page, starting from here.
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/admiral-lee-hungs-rare-meme-repository.449/page-645#post-556770

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MD Zolo

Thank you for that. I will try to read to find out what you think of Bleach.

But follow-up questions here: Do you still consider MHA as average in an objective analysis? And was your original assessment of MHA objective analysis? Because objective analyses are independent. If reading Bleach can change your objective opinion of MHA, then your original analysis wasn't objective at all.