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HA001

Its ok major zoros gonna cut it

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Shura

his punches didn't become strong....his punches become lethal....as simple as that....

Sentinel

IIRC Sanjikun claimed this several times, I hope not that Luffy will simply use a stronger punch to defeat Kaido all by himself lol.

HA001

Its trash writing if luffy beats kaido with novice acoa when the top tiers will have it. If it was that easy akainu would have killed kaido a long time ago.

Arara

I think it's better to give Luffy a Awakening DF...

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Shura

Lol....there is no novice adCoA....don't make up terms that hasn't been introduced in manga yet....and it is expected but not mandatory for every top tier to have it...Akainu with magma +normal haki can be more lethal and deadly....

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Shura

It is not trash writing when so called novice user of enma can cut Kaido but it is trash when luffy does damage...lol...

Elder Lee Hung

Point is Oda lead his fandom to believe he would defeat Kaido down through means outside of just power ups.

Now it’s looking like power ups are all there is to it. Lol

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Shura

well...AFAIR it was long back i.e. when Kaido appeared for the first time..not even in 2018....maybe he has different idea right now...who knows...it is not like he has to stick to the same plan that he had long back...he said Wano starts in 2017 but it was started in 2018 july..so

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Homelander

Dont think luffy alone can take on kaido one on one. Kid and zoro are there as well.

HA001

Difference being i havent got kaido on some pedestal where hes untouchable.
Of course hes a novice user. When he got fs was he as good as kata. No of course not.

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Shura

Kata himself admitted that he was seeing the same future as FS...the difference is "frequency"...if Kata can use 10 times, then Luffy uses at best 4-5 times...

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Shura

Luffy vs Kaido "1 vs 1" is going to happen in final round...it is like how Luffy vs Doffy took place

HA001

So he wasnt as good at fs as kata was the moment he unlocked it. Just like he aint gonna be as good as a veteran user of acoa.

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Shura

there is a difference in learning FS and adCoA.....and the situations are also different...he learnt FS in 9-11 hours and adCoA he has been learning for 7-9 days...of course he is not the same as some veteran....also, like I said it is not mandatory that every top tier should have adCoA like not everyone has FS....they have hax/lethal DF or overwhelming physical strength to make up for it...

HA001

I think the admirals all have both and shanks and mihawk too.
Aokiji and akainu used fs to move their bodies when hit with haki.
And i reckon akainu used acoa on whitebeard cause when he punched him he exploded from the inside unlike when he punched ace. So why if luffy wins hasnt akainu just killed kaido. When hes superior to luffy in every way.

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Shura

it is not necessarily FS, as there are many possibilities..good reaction+good CoO can still do the job as they are logias and more experienced with their DF....Fujitora has shown better usage of CoO than the cases you mentioned but it is not FS...afair WB flesh was removed.it was not exploded...you could say it might be magma effect...even if he has he might not be very good at it...there are many possibilities...

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Shura

Also, even if he has and Akainu can kill Kaido but it comes at big cost....Akainu has to go against Kaido and his army...there is reason Marine HQ+War lords = 4 emperors....

Sentinel

Interesting debate guys, I can understand both sides but I don't think ACoA will be enough against Kaido.

I don't think Oda makes his plot so obvious in which people automatically assume ACoA is already enough to damage or even beat Kaido, there will be some plottwist in which Luffy loses again.

HA001

It wont be one on one. Kidd luffy zoro law will all be involved.