Worstgen
Sentinel
By the way, I expect King to morph his fire with armament haki as well.
We already saw advanced CoA in terms of haki flow which is just one advanced application of CoA meanwhile advanced hardening is possible as well. It is likely that Katakuri's hardening was inbetween the basic and advanced stuff. King may show great haki mastery with his flames + sword.
We already saw advanced CoA in terms of haki flow which is just one advanced application of CoA meanwhile advanced hardening is possible as well. It is likely that Katakuri's hardening was inbetween the basic and advanced stuff. King may show great haki mastery with his flames + sword.
Tyki_Mikk
Kid slamm Kaido whole body into the ground, huge strenght feat. And yes Kid Ap should be higher then Boundman without he using Adv CoA.
Sentinel
I mean, all of this only proves that the majority of the SCs attacks were not that powerful to begin with. Katakuri was extremely powerful because of his versatility and FS but in terms of pure attack potency, his higher end attacks were bested by Luffy's G3 which is literally unimpressive for the high tier standards.
So logically, King should have more techniques comparable to Bound Man AP if not even outright-
So logically, King should have more techniques comparable to Bound Man AP if not even outright-
Sentinel
stronger.
The fact that Kidd massively surpassed Bound Man's AP in terms of attack power clearly demonstrates that other high tiers can surpass this as well, unless Kidd's AP is also massively stronger than King's.
The fact that Kidd massively surpassed Bound Man's AP in terms of attack power clearly demonstrates that other high tiers can surpass this as well, unless Kidd's AP is also massively stronger than King's.
Cinera
Kidd is probably a High High Tier himself, so Attack Potency in that league is sensible.
Sentinel
@Cinera
Exactly, we thought Bound Man was absolutely powerful because we compared its performance against Doflamingo (mid high tier) and Katakuri (high high tier) whose abilities are not really attack power based. Doffy usually is very tricky, fast and versatile, the same with Katakuri, only that he has FS on top of all.
Exactly, we thought Bound Man was absolutely powerful because we compared its performance against Doflamingo (mid high tier) and Katakuri (high high tier) whose abilities are not really attack power based. Doffy usually is very tricky, fast and versatile, the same with Katakuri, only that he has FS on top of all.
Sentinel
But someone like King doesn't need all of that tricky stuff.
He can simply show high reactions, high physical strength and powerful swordsmanship in which he dishes out single powerful slashes towards his enemies. Katakuri and Doflamingo have to CREATE a huge amount of AoE based attacks to cover their lack of attack power with. Hence they're good with quantity while King's quality would be great.
He can simply show high reactions, high physical strength and powerful swordsmanship in which he dishes out single powerful slashes towards his enemies. Katakuri and Doflamingo have to CREATE a huge amount of AoE based attacks to cover their lack of attack power with. Hence they're good with quantity while King's quality would be great.
Sentinel
Look at Kidd or Zoro: He blocks and attacks everything which is an issue for him. Wind slashes? Zoro simply blocked it. Boro Breath? Zoro sliced it. Attacking? Zoro unleashes one powerful slash in order to kill the enemy for good.
The same with Kidd. Blocking? He can use metals to block attacks. Attacking? Hell, he simply CRUSHES his enemies with ferromagnetism. They do not have to aim at specific spots to gain-
The same with Kidd. Blocking? He can use metals to block attacks. Attacking? Hell, he simply CRUSHES his enemies with ferromagnetism. They do not have to aim at specific spots to gain-
Sentinel
certain advantages. They do not have to create lots of their own elements to have powerful offence.
Base Katakuri and base Doflamingo have weak offence, I think that should be obvious. They won't put down any powerful high tier with their basic skillset since it either gets blocked, countered or even endured. That's why they have their awakening; to either restrain or choking their enemies with tons of strings or-
Base Katakuri and base Doflamingo have weak offence, I think that should be obvious. They won't put down any powerful high tier with their basic skillset since it either gets blocked, countered or even endured. That's why they have their awakening; to either restrain or choking their enemies with tons of strings or-
Tyki_Mikk
Katakuri had Mogura who cover his attack power. Even though he hadn't the same ap as Boundman he wasn't much weaker since his Base form was around Snakeman lvl(low G4 lvl). His awakening was tricky,with future sight he was fast and insane good and with Mogura he had a lethal attack if he would hit someone with it.
Sentinel
mochi. Their enemies are literally drowning in front of such an offence, that's why they do not exactly need high attack power because they can beat their enemies with other ways.
Tyki_Mikk
I wouldn't say Base Katakuri was weak,he was overall around Snakeman lvl while I agree with base Doflamingo who was G2+lvl in his base.
Sentinel
Snake Man is fast but weak in terms of offensive strength. All tank-based high tiers will struggle it off.
Base Katakuri being comparable to Snake Man in terms of attack power is not necessarily enough to make him match the brute strength of high tier zoan users. Look at Marco casually holding two ancient zoan high tiers at bay. Katakuri would definitely NEED his awakening to achieve something similar.
Base Katakuri being comparable to Snake Man in terms of attack power is not necessarily enough to make him match the brute strength of high tier zoan users. Look at Marco casually holding two ancient zoan high tiers at bay. Katakuri would definitely NEED his awakening to achieve something similar.
Sentinel
Once again, I thought Bound Man was the highest shit in the high tier range but here is Kidd who massively outclassed Bound Man's AP with his own. He's factually far stronger than Bound Man.
Let's say, in all physical confrontations between Kidd's Punk Rotten and Bound Man, Kidd would always come out victorious in these clashes just like Bound Man did against Katakuri's Block Mochi.
Let's say, in all physical confrontations between Kidd's Punk Rotten and Bound Man, Kidd would always come out victorious in these clashes just like Bound Man did against Katakuri's Block Mochi.
I know he gets trashed by Marco rn but he still has not used his sword yet, he has not used his armament haki either. Oda finally needs to separate King with Queen if King is really that superior. Despite his lacklusting performance, I still haven't completely given up on him either.