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Cinera

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Cinera

I'm against scaling Issho to the Logia Trio because:
* Sakazuki wouldn't get sent flying by DR Luffy's Elephant Gun
* Sakazuki wouldn't be pushed back several metres if he blocked a heavily nerfed Ittoryu slash of DR Zoro
* Sakazuki and Borsalino wouldn't have sustained significant damage against Sabo and three high tiers.

Cinera

Issho doesn't have Logia Trio feats and portrayal, so I'm not going to grant it to him.

Cinera

By current feats and portrayal, Rooftop Zoro is above Issho.

Cinera

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Fujishiro

Imo there is no reason for Issho not to be around the C3 lvl, if you recall Jimbei said that the navy became an even stronger force for justice after the skip and losing Kuzan as well as sengoku.

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Geo

We need to wait a bit before being conclusive. We don't know the limits of his gravity

Cinera

@Fujishiro: Sakazuki and Kuzan wouldn't sustain significant damage against Sabo and 3 high tiers.

Fujishiro

You're jumping to conclusions on what happened and i feel like we may be underestimating the Revo commanders just cause they look goofy.

Elder Lee Hung

Would Issho be one shot by Kamazou? I highly, highly, highly doubt it lol. Issho still whops Zoro, high diff at worst.

Gol D. Roger

Issho isn't even much of a physical fighter but still, he was blocking G3 punches with his raw strength. He was also blocking Sabo, who is a physical fighter, casually with his sword. Issho has better feats of physical strength than C3 if anything.

Gol D. Roger

I think you're also exaggerating the damage he took from Rev's; Sengoku looked clean at the end of MF war yet he was wrapped in bandaids after the war. You can't really judge the amount of damage taken based on them.

ShishioIsBack

Considering he got bruised by attack at least 1 billion times weaker than the attack zoro just tanked..an attack that can make ZOro pass out would kill Issho.

Unless we dismiss Kamazou as PIS @Fleet Admiral Lee Hung

MarineHQ

You guys are far too hard on Fuji. His feats weren't any worse than the C3 bar Akainu. Fuji blocked Elephant Gun without any Haki or Gravity powers, blocked Sabo the same way, same for Zoro's slash.

- Aokiji was blocked by pre ts Zoro, send flying by Luffy etc.

Aokiji still went and had a death battle with the strongest Admiral.

We have no idea what really happened at the Reverie. We need more context.

Elder Lee Hung

Cinera also said that Hakai would obliterate Jozu to the point that there was nothing left of him lol. There is no semblance of Z Bois remaining rational right now.

Elder Lee Hung

But yeah @MarineHQ62 the internet in general is way too hard on Fuji. This is how Admirals are always treated among the fandom, they can pull off ridiculous feat after ridiculous feat, but the fandom is just waiting for that one moment where they look like anything less than demigods to argue why they are weaker than other characters who have consistently worse feats than them, like Kaido or Zoro for example.