TheKnightOfTheSeaImo: I think the main difference between the two is that Shukai Plains Gyou'un was extremely rusty(he hadn't fought in decades).
Lee Ba ShouProbably Shukai Plains Gyou’Un was about 80-85%. I think he and Garyuu still trained and such. They also kept central Zhao safe.
TheKnightOfTheSeaThat's a fair take. Gyou'un is in the same generation as Ouki/Renpa iirc, so he was probably in his fifties during Shukai plains too.
Now that I think about it, Rinshoujo was truly a beast lol. He had a total of 10 mighty generals, including at least 2 Heavenly King level generals, and was one of the greatest tacticians in Kingdom. Wonder how the final Zhao Heaven is going to compare to him and Renpa.
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