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Ballel
Thismakes no sense to me
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Shisui
@Zowo It was never stated anywhere that Yoru was already one of the 12 pre blackened supreme grade. Where did you get that from????
I am willing to bet Yoru was a great grade before Hawkeye forged it into a black blade.
I usually don't make theories but I am almost certain of this bro. You just watch

@Cinera Where was this stated??
Cinera
Cinera
@Shisui_038: Zoro's flashback after he cut Pica.

Mihawk said that every blade can become a Black Blade.
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Shisui
@solis
Supreme Grade: Blackend Yoru, Murakumogiri, Shodai & Ace (Mura, Shodai and Ace were created as supreme grades, their rank can't be raised)
Great Grade: Unblackened Yoru, Blackend Shusui, Enma, Wado, Nidai & Ame no Habakiri (Enma, Wado, Ame and Nidai will only become supreme grades after turning black permanently)
Skillful Grade: Unblackened Shusui & Yamaoroshi (Yama will become a great grade if blackened)
Cinera
Cinera
@Shisui_038: Yoru is "the finest [blade] in the world". This is presumably because it was already a Supreme Grade sword when it was made black.
Cinera
Cinera
Your hypothesis just makes no sense and is consistently contradicted by the manga.
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Ballel
Their rank can't be raised but they can still turn black.
Cinera
Cinera
@Shisui_038: this is just a weird headcanon to cope with the fact that Roger and Co could not forge Black Blades.
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Shisui
@Cinera Per Hitetsu words, if Zoro makes Enma permanently black, it may increase its rank from Great Grade to Supreme Grade.
Now take the same logic and apply it to Murakumogiri for example. If WB was to turn Murakumogiri into a kokuto, it may increase its rank from a supreme grade to what exactly, a Sovering Grade??
Cinera
Cinera
Cinera
Cinera
If a Supreme Grade becomes black, it remains a Supreme Grade sword.
Cinera
Cinera
Yoru isn't just a Supreme Grade sword, it's "the finest [blade] in the world".
Cinera
Cinera
If Murakumogiri was made black, it could attain a similar status as Yoru.
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Shisui
@solis You believe their rank can't be raised but they can still turn black??? but why did Hitesu tell Zoro if he forges Enma into a black blade, the rank may increase from a great grade to a supreme grade???
Cinera
Cinera
@Shisui_038: in the first place, Hitetsu didn't say "its rank may rise from a Great Grade to a Supreme Grade", he simply said: "its rank may yet be raised".
Cinera
Cinera
It's honestly just an assumption that he was talking about Enma becoming a new Supreme Grade sword.
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Ballel
I dont understand the issue you have with this.
Cinera
Cinera
But even if it was, it doesn't change the fact that Yoru is "the finest [blade] in the world".
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Shisui
@Cinera That makes no sense. A supreme blade that turns into a black supreme blade remains the same tf. Either the grade caps at Supreme or there is a level beyond.
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Shisui
@solis I don't have an issue with it. It is a harmless theory, nothing too deep about it.

@Cinera do you have the chapter of that quote???
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