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ShishioIsBack
@Sentinel isn't that the same argument that Kidd fans use against Zoro as well?
MarineHQ
What do you guys think would IJ kicks do to Base Kaido?
I think Kaido is getting knocked back and shout out in pain for sure. It'll do more than Punk Vice did.
I think Kaido is getting knocked back and shout out in pain for sure. It'll do more than Punk Vice did.
ShishioIsBack
Yeah it might do some Scabbards level damage to Kaido.
Both Sanji and Kidd are missing Haki feats but at least Sanji has extremely hot flames and then he has a lot of blunt force to send a dinosaur flying.
He might send Kaido flying if caught off guard and do minor damage I would say. @MarineHQ62
Both Sanji and Kidd are missing Haki feats but at least Sanji has extremely hot flames and then he has a lot of blunt force to send a dinosaur flying.
He might send Kaido flying if caught off guard and do minor damage I would say. @MarineHQ62
ShishioIsBack
Which attack is stronger? That magnetic gun Kidd used on Big Mom or Beef Burst? @MarineHQ62 @Sentinel
MarineHQ
Beef Burst is stronger imo.
Pantheos
Even by feats, Sanji is way below Kid. Simply spoken, Kid is somewhere between Yonko level and YC1. Sanji is YC2 level. Maybe, if we are generous, between YC2 and YC1.
Chrono
Everyone saying feats this and feats that. What fucking feats does Kidd even have lmao. His AP is dogwater.
Pantheos
Hurting the biggest known Tank aka. Linlin for example, even without using CoC. Additionally tanking everything this Yonko has to offer, still smiling, still going onward. His AP is at least 2 level above everyone which is not part of the R5 or an Yonko in Wano.
ShishioIsBack
Well Linlin isn't biggest known tank based on either feats or portrayal, the most durable entity would be King in Flame mode, and then Kaido and gap of durability between Kaido and Linlin seems to be significant. I can't remember feats of Linlin tanking anything remarkable.
Secondly what visible damage has Kidd done to Big Mom? Has he made her bleed on panel? @Pantheos
Secondly what visible damage has Kidd done to Big Mom? Has he made her bleed on panel? @Pantheos
Sentinel
@ShishioIsBack What do Kidd fans use against Zoro as arguments? Well, I think portrayal and feats matter, and when it comes to Kidd vs Sanji, Kidd performed better in portrayal and feats.
ShishioIsBack
@MarineHQ62 I would say so because granted Big Mom is more durable than Queen, not sure by how much but she is, Beef Burst sent him flying upward a kilometer or more and knocked him out where as Kidd's attack really did nothing besides push Big Mom down a hole.
So he really is lacking any quantifiable feats.
So he really is lacking any quantifiable feats.
Chrono
Kidd never seriously hurt Big Mom tho. Queen did more damage to Big Mom than Kidd. Nor did he tank Misery, he dodged that shit.
RayanOO
Kid > Sanji
Kid AP > Sanji AP
Railed Gun > Beef burst
Kid endurance > Sanji endurance
Sanji durability > Kid durability
Sanji speed > Kid speed
it's not a stomp at all. More like a good high diff for Kid
Kid AP > Sanji AP
Railed Gun > Beef burst
Kid endurance > Sanji endurance
Sanji durability > Kid durability
Sanji speed > Kid speed
it's not a stomp at all. More like a good high diff for Kid
ShishioIsBack
Lets talk about feats then @Sentinel
Does Kidd have speed feats over Sanji?
Durability feats?
Attack Power feats?
Lethality feats?
Physical strength feats?
Only thing that I can agree with is Kidd having better endurance.
Does Kidd have speed feats over Sanji?
Durability feats?
Attack Power feats?
Lethality feats?
Physical strength feats?
Only thing that I can agree with is Kidd having better endurance.
ShishioIsBack
Why do you think Railed Gun > Beef Burst? @RayanOO
Sentinel
Durability: Kidd, he tanked many hits of BM, including Ikoku.
Attack Power: Well, he damaged Big Mom's iron ball body very significantly with his awakened techniques.
Lethality: Again, Kidd crushes enemies with magnetism and metals. He wins there too.
Physical strength: If it's base Kidd, Sanji has the advantage with his new PU. Does DF Kidd count or even awakening Kidd?
Attack Power: Well, he damaged Big Mom's iron ball body very significantly with his awakened techniques.
Lethality: Again, Kidd crushes enemies with magnetism and metals. He wins there too.
Physical strength: If it's base Kidd, Sanji has the advantage with his new PU. Does DF Kidd count or even awakening Kidd?
ShishioIsBack
Idk about him tanking Ikoku lol, it seems like it only went through his metal and never touched him
Significant damage? When did he do that?
In world of superhumans, getting smashed by metal rods doesn't count as durability, at least not comparable to flames so hot, Sanji needs to use Armament Haki to prevent his leg from burning on top of Exoskeleton that is harder than steel.
@Sentinel
Significant damage? When did he do that?
In world of superhumans, getting smashed by metal rods doesn't count as durability, at least not comparable to flames so hot, Sanji needs to use Armament Haki to prevent his leg from burning on top of Exoskeleton that is harder than steel.
@Sentinel
ShishioIsBack
Also I doubt kidd is durable enough to break a sword on his body without armament Haki
RayanOO
@ShishioIsBack Sanji attack was great. the guy send Queen flying to the moon, and Queen is a huge fucking dino with cyborg feature.
But Kid finisher pinned down Bigger Mom and she couldn't move at all. She needed other souls to be even bigger and overpower the attack.
And BM is a huge powerhouse physically, even more when she is in big mode. And Kid huge advantage is he can fire multiple shot of his abilities.
But Kid finisher pinned down Bigger Mom and she couldn't move at all. She needed other souls to be even bigger and overpower the attack.
And BM is a huge powerhouse physically, even more when she is in big mode. And Kid huge advantage is he can fire multiple shot of his abilities.
Phoenix D. King
In what world is beating a YC2 a better feat than beating a Yonko in a 2v1