Worstgen

-, someone boosted by the powers of the Old Chaos.

The BoC can't even scratch him even though he's beaten all those dudes lol.

I always hear about DS fans saying that Chosen Undead would get massacred by Prime Gwyn/Artorias/Nito but BoC vs Prime Vendrick wouldn't even be a fight lmao

Elder Lee Hung

Yeah Vendrick was clearly stronger than Gwyn, no idea why people wank Gwyn’s strength so hard, I think people confuse strength and influence. Gwyn’s influence was probably the best in Dark Souls history but he was no stronger than the other OG lords

SakazOuki

Sup Lee! Lore wise I think the strongest in the verse is Soul of Cinder, he's basically all lords that ever kindled the flame combined

Elder Lee Hung

Soul of Cinder probably is the strongest lorewise I agree.

TheKnightOfTheSea

Excluding archdragons, I think Soul of Cinder, Vendrick and Gael would be top 3.

SakazOuki

Gwyn is probably top 3 though, don't forget he divided his soul to his family and other lords of cinder. The version we fight is a very nerfed form of the Gwyn that conquered the world

Elder Lee Hung

My top 3 (in a fight) would be Vendrick, Yhorm, and that giant Archdragon corpse in DS3 lol. I would put Gwyn top 10 maybe but not top 3.

TheKnightOfTheSea

I think Soul of Cinder should be> Yhorm logically lol.

Elder Lee Hung

Shit I just forgot his ass lmfao. Soul of Cinder > Yhorm. Yhorm is top 5 though imo

SakazOuki

My top 5 looks like this: SoC -> Gwyn -> Vendrick -> Manus -> Gael

Elder Lee Hung

Why Gwyn > Vendrick?

TheKnightOfTheSea

I think Gael>Manus @SakazOuki

Im a bit torn on Nameless King, feels like he should be above Gwyn logically... But idk

Elder Lee Hung

Nameless King > Gwyn for sure.

SakazOuki

Prime Gwyn has so much hype in lore, he singlehandedly beat the everlasting dragons.

TheKnightOfTheSea

Saying he singlehandedly beat the dragons is too far lmao.

Nameless King was literally known as a dragon killing God of War+ Ornstein and Gough were both dragonslayers