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Elder Lee Hung
Kalameet is not weak but he has massive matchup disadvantage against Nameless
SakazOuki
What’s boggling me is why Nameless didn’t claim his head. Kalameet is portrayed as an everlasting dragon too, so he’s been through shit in his lifetime.
Elder Lee Hung
Kalameet was probably in hiding tbh. From what we know he never comes back to Lordran until after Anor Londo had collapsed lol.
For the record Kalameet is top tier. I think he probably high diffs Yhorm (top tier) due to matchup, and maybe other characters like Lorian (top tier) who he has matchup advantage against. But against Dragonslayers..he’s in trouble lol
For the record Kalameet is top tier. I think he probably high diffs Yhorm (top tier) due to matchup, and maybe other characters like Lorian (top tier) who he has matchup advantage against. But against Dragonslayers..he’s in trouble lol
TheKnightOfTheSea
@SakazOuki at one point:
Gwyn was burning in the first flame, Artorias was corrupted, Gough was retired and blinded, Ciaran was in mourning(plus she wouldn't be that effective against Kalameet, she's an assassin not a dragonslayer) and Ornstein was probably searching for Nameless.
Kalameet smokes Smough lol.
Gwyn was burning in the first flame, Artorias was corrupted, Gough was retired and blinded, Ciaran was in mourning(plus she wouldn't be that effective against Kalameet, she's an assassin not a dragonslayer) and Ornstein was probably searching for Nameless.
Kalameet smokes Smough lol.
Elder Lee Hung
@Gehrman Midir is a confirmed Dark Dragon so he and Nameless probably have matchup advantage against each other tbh, lol
TheKnightOfTheSea
Speaking of Kalameet, have you guys heard the theory that the Calamity ring he drops is the reason why he can get hurt by the player?
He's supposed to be an immortal everlasting dragon, and the ring doubles damage by 2x.
He's supposed to be an immortal everlasting dragon, and the ring doubles damage by 2x.
SakazOuki
Then prolly something like Kalameet not heading to Lordran out of fear of NK, and NK would want no beef with Manus so he avoids Oolacile
Elder Lee Hung
The timeline is unclear I think, did Artorias leave Anor Londo while Gwyn was alive? Or after Nameless left?
But yeah Manus has matchup advantage against Nameless.
But yeah Manus has matchup advantage against Nameless.
TheKnightOfTheSea
Gwyn left about 1000 years before DS1
The Artorias dlc happened around 200-300 years before DS1.
Not sure how long Artorias was corrupted before the chosen undead killed him, but don't think it was long
The Artorias dlc happened around 200-300 years before DS1.
Not sure how long Artorias was corrupted before the chosen undead killed him, but don't think it was long
Elder Lee Hung
Yeah Nameless was probably long gone I would say. I doubt he stuck around for 100 years after Gwyn died tbh. Lol
TheKnightOfTheSea
I always got the impression the whole Ooclacile debacle was resolved rather quickly.
Possibly Nameless wasn't even aware of it
Possibly Nameless wasn't even aware of it
SakazOuki
From what I understand, chaos witch accidentally creates bed of chaos, demon vs silver knights war begins. Within a short period of time these next events happen:
Nameless banished and deleted from all records
New londo sacked by Darkwraiths, Artorias resists but eventually leaves for different mission
Oolacile consumed by Manus, Artorias leaves to rescue Dusk
Seath gone mad and is experimenting on live humans
Nameless banished and deleted from all records
New londo sacked by Darkwraiths, Artorias resists but eventually leaves for different mission
Oolacile consumed by Manus, Artorias leaves to rescue Dusk
Seath gone mad and is experimenting on live humans
SakazOuki
Gwyn loses his sanity and heads for the kiln
TheKnightOfTheSea
I think it's safe to say that New Londo and Oolacile happened after Gwyn went to kindle the flame.
I believe Havel got imprisoned shortly after Seath went crazy, so before Gwyn imo.
I believe Havel got imprisoned shortly after Seath went crazy, so before Gwyn imo.
Elder Lee Hung
The Demon War took place while Gwyn was alive, everything else took place after
Btw, have you guys heard the truth of the Demon War? Essentially the Demons were swaying humans over to the Demon Ruins and feasting on their humanity (this is why you can give humanity to the fair lady and why Quelaag tries to kill you). Gwyn did not want this-
Btw, have you guys heard the truth of the Demon War? Essentially the Demons were swaying humans over to the Demon Ruins and feasting on their humanity (this is why you can give humanity to the fair lady and why Quelaag tries to kill you). Gwyn did not want this-
Elder Lee Hung
-To happen, so he goes down to fight a war with the Demons but slaughters every human in the Demom Ruins. The theory is that the War with the Demons was just a front for Gwyn’s true aim, which was slaughtering all of the humans who were making the Demons more powerful
TheKnightOfTheSea
what do you think about the Gods employing some demons?
The Asylum and the Stray Demon at the Northern Undead Asylum, and there are a few ones in Anor Londo too
The Asylum and the Stray Demon at the Northern Undead Asylum, and there are a few ones in Anor Londo too
SakazOuki
Seeing how there are black knights guarding the prison upon your return, it’s safe to assume they were sent to clean up the asylum
TheKnightOfTheSea
i wonder if the Black Knights have anything to do with the doll that can be found in the starting cell