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Natalija
True, but he also thought of all those, they just mastered someone else's idea. If Tobirama was handed all that, he'd be even better probably
TheAncientCenturion
I'll give you that, Tobirama had better students. Hiruzen & Danzo just built different.
Tobirama's half baked. He literally got surpassed by everyone else who performs his jutsu or operates in his area of speciality. Fucking Hell, Mei has better water dragon feats than him. And she's the objectively weakest Kage in the series.
Tobirama's half baked. He literally got surpassed by everyone else who performs his jutsu or operates in his area of speciality. Fucking Hell, Mei has better water dragon feats than him. And she's the objectively weakest Kage in the series.
EmperorKinyagi
Tobirama’s “best water user” claim is also complete bs since Kisame is way more impressive with water
SakazOuki
Hiruzen and Danzo are built different specifically because they were taught by Tobirama 😭😭
Tobirama and Hashirama are in a different league, we already saw how they control the room
Hiruzen and his inferior Minato are the just leftovers of the hokage heritage
Tobirama built the shinobi world, its civilization and its jutsu
Tobirama and Hashirama are in a different league, we already saw how they control the room
Hiruzen and his inferior Minato are the just leftovers of the hokage heritage
Tobirama built the shinobi world, its civilization and its jutsu
TheAncientCenturion
It was an early mistranslation that turned into fanon. Tobirama's suiton hype is, paraphrased, "Wow! Lord Second can create such large amounts of water without a nearby source!" — Something we see fodder do against Edo Madara. At the very best, upscaling for his nerfed state, he's no better than Mei and about her equal.
EmperorKinyagi
Kisame negs
TheAncientCenturion
Lmaoooo. Hiruzen and Danzo built Konoha, Tobirama reigned for such a short period of time it's barely worth consideration.Dude died in the 1st Shinobi war and left his pupil to clean it up. Hiruzen even said, to Tobi's face, he was the most talented out of their team and if he went to fight the Kinkaku bros, he wouldn't die. Can't be said for that halfbaked Senju
SakazOuki
Hiruzen is a bozo who has no word in his village’s council, while mr I-died-in-my-early-twenties-because-im-fodder, with the help of his top tier sealer wife had to kill himself for some mild Kurama outbreak
Hashirama didn’t do shit, we know Tobirama built the shinobi world.
Tobirama created Edo Tensei for the lols ffs lmao
Hashirama didn’t do shit, we know Tobirama built the shinobi world.
Tobirama created Edo Tensei for the lols ffs lmao
TheAncientCenturion
Hiruzen ended 3 world wars and left Konoha in its strongest state, it took a Shinobi > Minato (so >> Tobirama) to beat Hiruzen’s successor and cause chaos in his village.
Tobirama was told not to by Hashi but valued it so much he kept it around. And never perfected it, like the bum he is
Tobirama was told not to by Hashi but valued it so much he kept it around. And never perfected it, like the bum he is
SakazOuki
Why would he perfect a wicked jutsu used by fodder like Orochimaru who can’t fight for themselves😂😂
Tobirama wakes up in the morning, drinks some tea, negs some Minato level Uchiha then creates the most powerful jutsu in history
This is the daily life of a Shinobi god
And btw, I’m sure as shit you know Hirzuen would’ve fucked up the shinobi world without shadow leader Wanzo 💀🐐
Tobirama wakes up in the morning, drinks some tea, negs some Minato level Uchiha then creates the most powerful jutsu in history
This is the daily life of a Shinobi god
And btw, I’m sure as shit you know Hirzuen would’ve fucked up the shinobi world without shadow leader Wanzo 💀🐐
TheAncientCenturion
Lmaoooooo. Tobirama is most known for Edo Tensei and using it to bomb a battlefield cause he can’t fight hand to hand. Nice try.
Hiruzen is a legend and ofc he needed his advisers. All good leaders have them. Tobirama didn’t live long enough as Hokage to find his own Danzo 😂😂
Hiruzen is a legend and ofc he needed his advisers. All good leaders have them. Tobirama didn’t live long enough as Hokage to find his own Danzo 😂😂
SakazOuki
Tobirama is known as the fastest shinobi in history, and if Madara thinks you’re the fsstest then you are 💀
Hiruzen was shitting his pants in Tobirama’s presence😭😭 Just because fodder like Iruka think he’s great doesn’t mean he amounts to shit on the bigger scale💀
Hiruzen would’ve gotten Onoki treatment by Madara, looked down upon like fodder
Meanwhile Madara thinks no less of Tobirama than his brother Hashi
Hiruzen was shitting his pants in Tobirama’s presence😭😭 Just because fodder like Iruka think he’s great doesn’t mean he amounts to shit on the bigger scale💀
Hiruzen would’ve gotten Onoki treatment by Madara, looked down upon like fodder
Meanwhile Madara thinks no less of Tobirama than his brother Hashi
SakazOuki
They weren’t his advisors, Hiruzen literally couldn’t voice his opinion in the council
The elders and Wanzo had him by the balls
The elders and Wanzo had him by the balls
Jiihad
Tobi doesn’t get tha respect he should from tha fandom. But Minato is objectively portrayed as a deviation of Tobi but superior
You could argue who was tha better kage sure. But tha better combatant us not up for discussion
You could argue who was tha better kage sure. But tha better combatant us not up for discussion
TheAncientCenturion
Fastest Shinobi of his era and Tobirama self admits he’s slower than Minato. Madara also lowkey called Tobirama a bitch who attacks people when their guard is dropped. Congrats, you stan a cowardly dumbass.
Hiruzen canonically removed Danzo as a councilor post Uchiha massacre for overstepping his bounds. And you forget that Hiruzen again led the village through 3 world wars. Tobirama got killed in the 1st 😂
Hiruzen canonically removed Danzo as a councilor post Uchiha massacre for overstepping his bounds. And you forget that Hiruzen again led the village through 3 world wars. Tobirama got killed in the 1st 😂
SakazOuki
And now we’re taking Uchiha cope seriously😂
Madara knew the Senju would collect Uchiha booty any day of the week, and needed babysitting by Hashirama for decades to cope with this fact, and he still failed in the end and was bitchy enough to come up with a pathetic plot to cope with his insecurity
Madara’s equal at the time, Izuna, just couldn’t comprehend Tobirama’s speed😂
Madara knew the Senju would collect Uchiha booty any day of the week, and needed babysitting by Hashirama for decades to cope with this fact, and he still failed in the end and was bitchy enough to come up with a pathetic plot to cope with his insecurity
Madara’s equal at the time, Izuna, just couldn’t comprehend Tobirama’s speed😂
SakazOuki
Yes Danzo let me put the blame on you after you’ve been overstepping your bounds for decades😂
Bro the entire Uchiha clan was murdered in one single night and Hiruzen still wouldn’t know what he had for breakfast lmaaaaao
Bro the entire Uchiha clan was murdered in one single night and Hiruzen still wouldn’t know what he had for breakfast lmaaaaao
TheAncientCenturion
Madara would step on Tobirama any day of the week. The man with immortality and the element of surprise was beaten by one eye Madara. Pathetic showing.
TheAncientCenturion
Lmaoooo Danzo had to work around Hiruzen after Hiruzen told him to stfu about killing the Uchiha. Hiruzen held all the power in that dynamic, Danzo just took care of the dirtiest work.
SakazOuki
Madara with Kuram is stronger otherwise don’t even think about it
Tobirama folding his brother is what gave Madara his ultimate power when you think about it, even this was Tobi’s doing 😂
Hiruzen’s words are meaningless, Danzo just laughed it off and continued controlling the village from behind the curtains
The fact that Danzo doesn’t even need toko to manipulate a bum like Hiruzen lmao
Tobirama folding his brother is what gave Madara his ultimate power when you think about it, even this was Tobi’s doing 😂
Hiruzen’s words are meaningless, Danzo just laughed it off and continued controlling the village from behind the curtains
The fact that Danzo doesn’t even need toko to manipulate a bum like Hiruzen lmao