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gz89
gz89
She's not above him. Vergo loses only to YCs of BMP/BP
ConquistadoR
ConquistadoR
Vergo stomps Ulti
Rukusho
Rukusho
I don't think this is a bad take, Ulti making Luffy use G4 is a feat especially this is him after training and dealing with a lot of formidable foes.
Cinera
Cinera
Cope.

Ulti overpowered Luffy head on in a COA clash and Luffy needed zoan form to escape her grip.
Cinera
Cinera
She could still stand up after Linlin's Maser Cannon as well.
ConquistadoR
ConquistadoR
It means nothing. She got clowned by G2/3 Luffy in a 2v1 with support.
She's still a Tobi Roppo, a Franky/Robin tier fighter.

Vergo went up v. Law, v. Smoker, v. Sanji who are all superior to Tobi Roppo.
Cinera
Cinera
That version of Sanji isn't.

Don't forget he needed the Raid Suit for Page One.
ConquistadoR
ConquistadoR
He never needed Raidsuit for P1. He was simply testing it out.
He didnt even use DJ which was even (slightly) effective v. Queen.

Look at what base Sanji did to a Tobi Roppo tier fighter like Oven.

Luffy, Zoro, Law, Kidd, Urouge, Sanji were all superior to Tobi Roppo since the start of the Ts. Same goes for Vergo, Smoker.
J
Just a member
Vergo? Ulti made Wano Luffy need to go G4 in order to win and that Luffy is much stronger than Dressrosa Luffy, she can at least fight on par with Doffy, feat wise. Then of course if Doffy comes back he will be retckoned to Croco/YC1+ level but that is another story
ConquistadoR
ConquistadoR
@Just a member Wano Luffy almost dodged a TB in base with Fs and made Kaidou compare him to Roger/WB with one Roc attack.

Literally moments after clashing with Ulti. He never NEEDED G4 to beat Ulti, he just needed it to get out of the grip
J
Just a member
@ConquistadoR Either way he needed it and you are just confirming Ulti will at least fight on par with Doffy let alone Vergo.
Sir Yasheen
Sir Yasheen
Feats wise yeah, Ulti looked good. But end of the day she’s just a Tobi Roppo. Characters weaker than post Timeskip robin and Franky
Cinera
Cinera
Who's Who would have perforated him.
Sir Yasheen
Sir Yasheen
Based on? Who’s who is below the post timeksip mid trio.
ConquistadoR
ConquistadoR
Ulti being comparable to Doffy is a joke.
She's comparable to Mid Trio, not Doffy who was superior to Law.
ConquistadoR
ConquistadoR
She's not even comparable to Pica/Vergo, let alone Supernova, let alone Doffy.
Cinera
Cinera
Vergo isn't comparable to Pica.
ConquistadoR
ConquistadoR
Regardless of their PL difference they are both superior to Tobi Roppo & Inferior to Calamities.
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