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So you think Sabo can do wetter than G4 and/or KKG?
I personally think so, because he was wrestling with a casual Issho without using his best moves like Flame Dragon King, plus he's a bad matchup for Doffy due to his intense flames and Logia powers letting him resist Parasite very easily, imo.
I personally think so, because he was wrestling with a casual Issho without using his best moves like Flame Dragon King, plus he's a bad matchup for Doffy due to his intense flames and Logia powers letting him resist Parasite very easily, imo.
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He only resists Parasite due to being a Logia, thats a given.
Sabo got babied by Fujitora who used him as an excuse to not do anything. You said it yourself, it was a very very casual Issho.
Sabo can "win" in the place of Luffy, wherein you have Doffy being softened up by Law, then 2 rounds. But i dont think anyone except Fuji was actually stronger than Doffy.
Sabo got babied by Fujitora who used him as an excuse to not do anything. You said it yourself, it was a very very casual Issho.
Sabo can "win" in the place of Luffy, wherein you have Doffy being softened up by Law, then 2 rounds. But i dont think anyone except Fuji was actually stronger than Doffy.
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I'm sorry, I didn't see the alert about the reply.
Honestly it's not even that I believe Doffy is weak, but Sabo completely embarrassed Burgess low diff (sure he used two of his arguably best moves, but Shanks did that with Kidd to a degree and it was still basically a neg diff, so..) and was practically clean at the end of the fight, even dodging his knife which was very close to his head. And sure, Sabo didn't re
Honestly it's not even that I believe Doffy is weak, but Sabo completely embarrassed Burgess low diff (sure he used two of his arguably best moves, but Shanks did that with Kidd to a degree and it was still basically a neg diff, so..) and was practically clean at the end of the fight, even dodging his knife which was very close to his head. And sure, Sabo didn't re
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-ally do much to casual Issho, but you should keep in mind that other casual Admirals could handle the Scabbards easily, Marco, Jozu, and some other powerful characters/groups while holding back. And I don't believe Doffy really has anything on the level of what Sabo has shown, not to mention it's implied Sabo himself thought he could take Doffy but didn't because he was busy with Burgess.
Of course if you think Do-
Of course if you think Do-
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ffy wins, that's fine, but I'll still respectfully disagree personally
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I do believe Sabo can give Doffy a good fight back then. But i don't think he'd be able to beat him.
Burgess is a non-factor for me, Doffy (or any Warlord) embarasses him too.
Like look at what Hancock did to BBP goons or what Doffy did to Atmos - Burgess is asking to be embarassed if he goes against Doffy.
Burgess is a non-factor for me, Doffy (or any Warlord) embarasses him too.
Like look at what Hancock did to BBP goons or what Doffy did to Atmos - Burgess is asking to be embarassed if he goes against Doffy.
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I mean yeah, Doffy did clown Atmos really hard, same for Hancock, but they both had hax there and Idk if Parasite would work on Burgess because he seems to be pretty strong.
However he has no range outside of his shockwaves, but Doffy has Observation so he'll see that shit coming and dodge it like pre Mera Sabo did.
Despite this, I still don't believe Doffy would win, and here's why:
One: Sabo was trained by Dragon
However he has no range outside of his shockwaves, but Doffy has Observation so he'll see that shit coming and dodge it like pre Mera Sabo did.
Despite this, I still don't believe Doffy would win, and here's why:
One: Sabo was trained by Dragon
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-for a decade and then some, and Dragon is very likely to be around Kaidou's level considering how important he is (Luffy's father, a D. founder of the Revs, one of Vegapunk's best friends/allies, etc.), and Sabo generally seems to have better portrayal than Doffy imo, given how he's Luffy's brother (remember how Ace started off by demolishing a plethora of warships, then pushed BB to high diff, then got a lot of ot
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her stuff like stalemating Yamato, Jinbe, and casual Oldbeard, among other things) and Oda always gives Luffy and his family very special treatment, see Garp in Hachinosu for example, so I find it hard to believe he would have had the newly introduced brother with Ace's inherited fruit and what not losing to Doffy in anything.
Though I could be wrong, because while Sabo has better portrayal, he doesn't have a whole
Though I could be wrong, because while Sabo has better portrayal, he doesn't have a whole
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I think pre Mera Sabo is just slightly inferior to Ace. I agree with what you said about Dragon too.
Where we disagree is mainly about where you and me place Doffy, not where we place Sabo.
If you think Doffy is weaker than Jack & Cracker then ofc Sabo would stomp him.
But i don't think so, that's where we disagree i guess.
Where we disagree is mainly about where you and me place Doffy, not where we place Sabo.
If you think Doffy is weaker than Jack & Cracker then ofc Sabo would stomp him.
But i don't think so, that's where we disagree i guess.
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lot of feats, unlike Doffy who has a shit ton of feats. The most important thing is that both are very skilled, but given that this Sabo hasn't really adapted to his fruit yet, I may give Doffy a bit of an edge in skill considering how he was boxing with Law and Luffy easily, can make clones with his fruit, and even heat his strings somehow, not to mention his Awakening. However, while Doffy is very versatile and tr
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-icky, he can't really do much against Sabo's flames without using his strings and Haki a lot (Ik he blocked a DJ from Sanji, but I think Sabo's flames are way hotter than that Sanji's flames, seeing as they didn't do much to Vergo while Sabo had Issho blocking and deflecting his fire a lot and Burgess looking like he got hit by a freight train point blank), which would throw him off because he'd be blocking more t
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han he'd be attacking unless he uses Awakening or a clone (though I doubt Sabo would really struggle with his clones even if he pulls a Kizaru and spawns a crowd of clones).
But we could go on and on and on about this, and I want to play a game so let's cut this a little short for now.
One last thing though, I think Doffy may be weaker than Jack but not Cracker, here's why:
But we could go on and on and on about this, and I want to play a game so let's cut this a little short for now.
One last thing though, I think Doffy may be weaker than Jack but not Cracker, here's why:
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Cracker is a complete glass cannon with not much skill or strength. His biscuit soldiers are durable, but they still got absolutely destroyed by G4 Luffy's onslaught, while it seems that Doffy could endure Luffy's hits without his bones/limbs being completely broken. Honestly, the only thing he may have above him is Haki/power, but even then Doffy can parasite him and absolutely embarass him, because all he needs is
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one good hit and Cracker goes night night. But Jack, he's much more complicated. Judging by him fighting the Dukes and their goons for 5 days straight while they got rest and food throughout, and Jack later said that even when the Scabbards are near death's door the Tobiroppo shouldn't underestimate their strength. He's also tanky, and he managed to get through a crowd of desperate Minks trying to stall him while he
He loses too but puts a tougher fight than Luffy can.