Worstgen

No bro, Moubu is the greatest offensive power in Qin history. As a general, he is above Kyou and Oukotsu who were similar types of generals to Moubu. So yes it is accepted fact that Moubu is stronger than 2 Qin 6 members.

What evidence is there for Ousen > Kyou or Oukotsu? I don’t see how you can justify that lol.

Elder Lee Hung

Bro Moubu beating Kanmei was insane. Literally Kanmei was a top 3 General in China at the time and Moubu still beat him. Ousen has zero feats comparable to that because Ousen himself said Riboku would have defeated him if not for the new Qin trio.

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With Koshou's words on Ousen and Heki's reflection right afterwards, we as readers are obviously meant to wonder about what Ousen might then be in that moment. Straight after that, Ousen pulls out one of the most insane feats ever (Gyou) - Riboku himself had never heard of such a thing - a plan cooked up in like a few hours too. Absolute lmfao.

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Imma be honest, intellect wise I don't think even people like Hakuki or Koshou or RSJ would be able to best current Ousen. Amongst the known commanders, Riboku is the only one I have even slightly better than that.

Elder Lee Hung

@God Buggy how do you feel about Hakuki, Rinshoujou, Shouheikun, and Ousen all having the same 99 IQ stat?

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I don't like stats but those are fine anyway lol, within a numerical system like this.

MUUGEN

KanKi is still the strongest

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@Elder Lee Hung To me, brain wise:

1. Riboku
2. Ousen
3. Koshou/RSJ/Hakuki/SHK

All monsters at that but this is how I would put it.

Elder Lee Hung

I don’t necessarily disagree, but you can’t deny Ousen > Koshou or Hakuki is speculative while Moubu > Oukotsu and Kyou is fact lol.

To be clear I don’t think Ousen will surpass Hakuki until post-Zhao.

SakazOuki

I mean if you want a direct statement for such obvious claim then probably there isnt
Maybe Ousen being near equal to Riboku is enough

I can also make claims about Gaimou > or = Hakuki but that is not what we know lol

Elder Lee Hung

@SakazOuki the same statements were made about Shouheikun and Gohoumei, that they were equals to Riboku lol.

Why would you claim Gaimou > Hakuki lol? Nothing indicates that. Moubu > Oukotsu and Kyou is established fact.

There’s actually just as much evidence for Gaimou > Hakuki as there is for Ousen > Hakuki lol.

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Ousen vs Hakuki, imo Ousen edges it or 50/50. If other folks put Hakuki as slightly stronger still, fine, but Ousen has to be ranked extremely high in any case.

Elder Lee Hung

Y’all really think highly of Ousen lmfao

I’m not opposed to Ousen = Hakuki but y’all have this man ranked above? Lol

Moubu vs Hakuki? @God Buggy @SakazOuki

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@Elder Lee Hung Hakuki.

Elder Lee Hung

The disrespect. Lol

I really do think Hakuki ~ Moubu from everything we’ve seen. And especially EOS Moubu’s feats…good lord.

People talk about EOS Ousen’s feats, but EOS Moubu’s feats are the stuff of legend. Truly he will be the strongest man and offensive power in Kingdom at EOS.

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Moubu absolutely needs to get a top tier tactician at his side. Mouki is with him but Hara hasn't shown anything impressive with him yet, perhaps he will greatly elevate him in the future. Or someone else.

If he had a person like that making use of his explosive army and offensive power, it'd be a pretty scary sight.

At this point it might not just be Mouki and Hara wants to put someone else completely lmao.

SakazOuki

Hakuki is an undisputed goat to me, he crushes Moubu without a shred of doubt
Even Renpa was clueless against Hakuki lmao
Hakuki > Ousen/ Riboku too

At least that's what Hakuki's real life history says

If Moubu got SHK by his side then I might think twice

Elder Lee Hung

Bruh y’all ain’t ready for EOS Moubu and neither is Chu lol

TheKnightOfTheSea

I can't agree

I think Riboku and Ousen are clearly the top 2 active generals in China

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@TheKnightOfTheSea I think it's possible but Kou En might also be stronger than Ousen (currently).