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Elder Lee Hung
Why you say that?
TheKnightOfTheSea
I was rereading his Sei conversation and was blown away.
Dude is amazing, best king so far imo
He transformed Qi from a measly two cities into a mid level state, and was capable of leading a coalition, something only Riboku boosted by clout from Ouki and Gekishin and the God of Military could do.
He's Hara's best written minor character imo. Also killer design
Dude is amazing, best king so far imo
He transformed Qi from a measly two cities into a mid level state, and was capable of leading a coalition, something only Riboku boosted by clout from Ouki and Gekishin and the God of Military could do.
He's Hara's best written minor character imo. Also killer design
Xione
@Best king so far, the disrespect to King Sho is craazzzyyy.
#ToujouDidItForGreaterGood
#ToujouDidItForGreaterGood
TheKnightOfTheSea
King Sho is cool, but he ain't Ouken levels cool.
Xione
Idk bro. Making Qin into the strongest state from it being the weakest. Making reforms that allowed people of all backgrounds to join the military. Gathering immense martial and political talent.
Idk if Ouken matches up with that.
Idk if Ouken matches up with that.
TheKnightOfTheSea
Ouken literally turned Qi from two cities into a state with respectful military progress
He's also capable of organizing a coalition which Riboku could only do with clout from defeating Ouki and Gekishin
He's also capable of organizing a coalition which Riboku could only do with clout from defeating Ouki and Gekishin
Xione
- Qi started taking back land in 278 BC and still had dudes that made it a superpower. Ouken didn't become king until 265 BC.
- Kings don't form coalitions only military commanders do. Hence it wasn't the Zhao king or Chu king who formed it, both with bigger clouts than Riboku and shunshinkun. Unless you believe Ouken was on the front lines leading armies.
- Kings don't form coalitions only military commanders do. Hence it wasn't the Zhao king or Chu king who formed it, both with bigger clouts than Riboku and shunshinkun. Unless you believe Ouken was on the front lines leading armies.
TheKnightOfTheSea
Ouken said that he would form a coalition to crush Qin though. So either he was bluffing, or he has a subordinate politician or general who could
Maybe historically that's true, but I think in Kingdom, it's made clear Qi was completely crippled after the coalition
Maybe historically that's true, but I think in Kingdom, it's made clear Qi was completely crippled after the coalition