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Elder Lee Hung
@Bullet you don’t understand what a suicide mission is apparently lmfao. Put Ouki or Renpa at Eikyuu and Gakuhaku Kou would neg them. Because certain battles are completely unwinnable regardless of who you are.
Bullet
Gaimou is his equal with no tactical knowledge
And he didn't lose
And he didn't lose
FutureWarrior123
@Elder Lee Hung Damn bro you really don't hide the Shi Ei dickeating. Unfortunately for you it's reserved for his stepsister.
Elder Lee Hung
Why do you think Ouki didn’t want Moubu to go too far past the Zhao HQ at Bayou? Because he knew such a context was unwinnable. Why do you think Renpa surrender rather than fight it out with Kanki and Ousen at Sanyou? Because he knew such a context was unwinnable.
Ouki and Renpa built their careers off of avoiding the exact battlefields that Shi Ei overcame time and time again.
Ouki and Renpa built their careers off of avoiding the exact battlefields that Shi Ei overcame time and time again.
Elder Lee Hung
Because even to Great Generals, you don’t fight certain battles or you’ll lose. These are suicide missions, and these are the exact battlefields Shi Ei singlehandedly overcame time and time again.
So yeah, Shi Ei in his prime was one of the most unstoppable forces in Kingdom. Bro literally solo’d 3 Fire Dragons in one battle. No one else can claim a feat like that.
So yeah, Shi Ei in his prime was one of the most unstoppable forces in Kingdom. Bro literally solo’d 3 Fire Dragons in one battle. No one else can claim a feat like that.
SakazOuki
Not every suicidal clash = Eikyuu lvl difficulty though
En san had a suicidal clash in Shukai and Bayou
He also suicidally crossed that river
En San > Ouki as Ouki would never cross that river 🧐
En san had a suicidal clash in Shukai and Bayou
He also suicidally crossed that river
En San > Ouki as Ouki would never cross that river 🧐
Bullet
@Elder Lee Hung that's baseless
If Ouhon found something so will they
Again unless it's shown what suicide battle's he won it's not important
Sou'Ou against fire dragons could be a suicide mission but if he overcame them you wouldn't put him above Ousen because oh he didn't do suicide mission
If Ouhon found something so will they
Again unless it's shown what suicide battle's he won it's not important
Sou'Ou against fire dragons could be a suicide mission but if he overcame them you wouldn't put him above Ousen because oh he didn't do suicide mission
TheKnightOfTheSea
Earl Shi high diffs Gaimou in a duel and mid diffs in a war.
He'd know to target Junsou sama and cripple the army intellectually
He'd know to target Junsou sama and cripple the army intellectually
Elder Lee Hung
@SakazOuki do you understand the definition of the phrase “suicide mission”? It means you don’t fight those battles or YOU WILL LOSE.
En’s scenario was never described as a suicide mission. Just very difficult lol. Eikyuu was really the only suicide mission we’ve ever seen in Kingdom. A mission so suicidal that no tactician present even considered attacking that territory.
En’s scenario was never described as a suicide mission. Just very difficult lol. Eikyuu was really the only suicide mission we’ve ever seen in Kingdom. A mission so suicidal that no tactician present even considered attacking that territory.
SakazOuki
How were they not suicidal, the odds were astronomically against En
Holding Kaishibou's elites is not suicidal?
Kanjou rescuing Ouhon is not suicidal?
Kanki vs Koshou was not suicidal?
Or maybe we can say Renpa is too good to be in a suicidal position in the first place
8k vs 50k against the 2nd strongest Zhao general is as insane as it gets lol
Holding Kaishibou's elites is not suicidal?
Kanjou rescuing Ouhon is not suicidal?
Kanki vs Koshou was not suicidal?
Or maybe we can say Renpa is too good to be in a suicidal position in the first place
8k vs 50k against the 2nd strongest Zhao general is as insane as it gets lol
Elder Lee Hung
@Bullet its not baseless at all. It’s exactly how Shi Ei’s life was described.
Have we ever seen Ouki or Renpa in a situation remotely like this?
https://i.imgur.com/mwJGGFu.jpeg
A scenario where their entire units were slaughtered down to the last man, but they survived? Nope not even close. This was just another Tuesday for Shi Ei.
Have we ever seen Ouki or Renpa in a situation remotely like this?
https://i.imgur.com/mwJGGFu.jpeg
A scenario where their entire units were slaughtered down to the last man, but they survived? Nope not even close. This was just another Tuesday for Shi Ei.
Elder Lee Hung
@SakazOuki theres a difference between a really hard situation, and a situation that no commander and their mother would even reference as a possibility because it’s so suicidal. Eikyuu was not even mentioned by any tacticians prior to Kanki because it was just that obviously impossible. En’s River scenario was Ten’s first and obvious choice for taking the River lol
Bullet
Again avoiding dangerous situation is not being below Bum Shi
Dude wanted to die so aimed above his ceiling but overcame it time and again but doesn't make him better than the guys who are a couple floors above him
Earl Shi can kill 10 men = fights 11 men
Renpa can kill 20 men = avoids fighting 21 men
You can't say oh so because he beat 11 and Renpa didn't fight 21 the guy who lost to a 4000 man commander is stronge
Dude wanted to die so aimed above his ceiling but overcame it time and again but doesn't make him better than the guys who are a couple floors above him
Earl Shi can kill 10 men = fights 11 men
Renpa can kill 20 men = avoids fighting 21 men
You can't say oh so because he beat 11 and Renpa didn't fight 21 the guy who lost to a 4000 man commander is stronge
Elder Lee Hung
I didn’t say he was above Renpa or Ouki, I said he is one of those generals who clutches impossible odds lol. You read too much into my comments. I never said Shi Ei was above Ouki or Renpa. I made those points to tell yall that Shi Ei has that dawg in him. And yes he would kill Houken. The only commanders resembling prime Shi Ei that Houken fought was Shukai Shin and an Ouki field by Kyou’s memory lol.
Bullet
Maybe they didn't face those situations because they aren't as weak
Again Renpa demolished Gakujou but maybe Earl Shi loses all his army and barely survives because he's that pathetic
Overcame a suicideal 1 to 8 or whatever it was mission but is a joke regardless
Again Renpa demolished Gakujou but maybe Earl Shi loses all his army and barely survives because he's that pathetic
Overcame a suicideal 1 to 8 or whatever it was mission but is a joke regardless
Bullet
Houken would mid diff him
Elder Lee Hung
But yeah it is pretty much just an assumption that Renpa can handle more than Shi Ei could. Renpa wasn’t confident he could take Mougou’s HQ without Rinko and Kaishibou’s help. That’s cute compared to this:
https://i.imgur.com/rQwxxHT.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/rQwxxHT.jpeg
Elder Lee Hung
Keep making excuses for your little fraud generals too scared to face one day in Shi Ei’s shoes lol. You know it’s bad when Renpa’s legend was partially built off the Wei King lying to the world about killing a general Shi Ei killed in actuality lol.
FutureWarrior123
Earl Shi > Rinshoujou
Elder Lee Hung
“Maybe Renpa could handle more than Shi Ei” don’t make me fucking laugh lol. If you can’t take Mougou’s HQ without two heavenly kings helping you, you can’t even sniff Shi Ei killing three fire dragons single handedly. What a fucking joke lol. Get Renpa’s bitch ass out of here and let Papa Chousha teach him how to win a battle.