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Obi wan overpowered vader in force directly which feels inconsistent --

I don't hate shanks but yeah he is a gary stu more or less.

Damn they made a mockery out of maul. How powerful obi wan was to be able to put a good fight against same vader? :crazwhat:

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PK in case of roger was not a power based title but a exploration based title. Imo oda changed roger's characterization. He was initially meant to be more brutal like rocks and dominating.

Its more about symbolism as nika was freer of slaves. But who knows. Maybe luffy has not fully awakened his DF yet and in his full awakening can harness power of sun like escanor does.

Mental gymnastics. They are the same. Huge elemental attacks coated with acoc. And thorheim is like a bomb adding to its power.

Kaido's strongest attack is flame bagua coated in acoc. Thorheim is lightning attack coated with acoc.

Yeah that I agree but it is still overpowered. Even scaled down it still will have aoe/DC on level of gura gura no mi + huge power boost in hybrid. WB with gura was only equal of roger where as loki mauled much stronger HK amped harald in hybrid. In terms of abilities yes it is straight...

Also even if you scaled loki's DF down , thorheim still is bigger than flaming bagua in size.

You are completely missing the massive amp it gives in hybrid form. Hk amped harald who is 2x someone like roger got folded instantly by hybrid loki. Compared that to G5 luffy who was being dominated by hybrid Kaido pre bajrung gun.

Not taking awakening into account yes. Even taking G5 into account loki's DF is better as it does not have time limit and gives a much bigger amp. But full potential nika is stronger.

Where did shiki ranked?

@Bogard will like it

Oda definitely dislikes usopp imo.

Hope so.

Yes oda did usopp dirty post skip.

Base nerfed loki is fighting a much superior haki opponent than shanks. Both gaban and luffy confirm imu's haki >> Shanks's. If anything this simply shows shanks never beat loki directly.

DBZ Broly is far far better and super broly. Its not even close @grey matter