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Its simply side effect of luffy's DF being retconned to a zoan one imo. Kaido had all 3 modes. Yamato had all 3 modes. Marco has shown all 3 modes. All 3 are mythical zoans.

About luffy's zoan forms its bit tricky as luffy's DF was retconned from paramecia to a zoan. Logically luffy's hybrid and full zoan coincides with each other in base as the model is human mode. Think of it like luffy is always in his hybrid/full mode. Though yeah logically luffy should have a...

This is how oda writes luffy's power ups. In pre skip there was a time limit for G2. In post skip same for G4 and G5. I can understand if G2 and G4 has timelimits as they doesn't fall under normal usage of his base DF but it makes no sense why G5 awakening will have such a drawback given zoan...

No hybird form shown yet has limitations like that though. Its more likely that in awakening loki can have same weakness. Unlike hybrid his full zoan form is too big so its understandable why that form consumes much more energy.

Imo disney obi wan >> Lucas obi wan.

Tbf obi wan was still getting dominated by anakin. But obi wan dominated vader with force at the end which makes obi wan's powers far less consistent. On one hand he gets instantly clowned by dooku , on other hand he clowns vader. It makes vader look weak.

This makes even less sense as obi wan confirms he has grown weaker in new hope movie :josad: Obi wan's handling of power level is very inconsistent imo.

Obi wan overpowered vader in force directly which feels inconsistent --

I don't hate shanks but yeah he is a gary stu more or less.

Damn they made a mockery out of maul. How powerful obi wan was to be able to put a good fight against same vader? :crazwhat:

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PK in case of roger was not a power based title but a exploration based title. Imo oda changed roger's characterization. He was initially meant to be more brutal like rocks and dominating.

Its more about symbolism as nika was freer of slaves. But who knows. Maybe luffy has not fully awakened his DF yet and in his full awakening can harness power of sun like escanor does.

Mental gymnastics. They are the same. Huge elemental attacks coated with acoc. And thorheim is like a bomb adding to its power.

Kaido's strongest attack is flame bagua coated in acoc. Thorheim is lightning attack coated with acoc.

Yeah that I agree but it is still overpowered. Even scaled down it still will have aoe/DC on level of gura gura no mi + huge power boost in hybrid. WB with gura was only equal of roger where as loki mauled much stronger HK amped harald in hybrid. In terms of abilities yes it is straight...

Also even if you scaled loki's DF down , thorheim still is bigger than flaming bagua in size.

You are completely missing the massive amp it gives in hybrid form. Hk amped harald who is 2x someone like roger got folded instantly by hybrid loki. Compared that to G5 luffy who was being dominated by hybrid Kaido pre bajrung gun.

Not taking awakening into account yes. Even taking G5 into account loki's DF is better as it does not have time limit and gives a much bigger amp. But full potential nika is stronger.