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  1. Logiko

    Controversial General Political Discussion

    Good exemple of institutionnalized eugenism. This makes my blood boils.
  2. Logiko

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    It's not about land. It's about respect and reparation.
  3. Logiko

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    :Trafinger:
  4. Logiko

    Controversial General Political Discussion

    I think you only "deserve" one answer :Trafinger:
  5. Logiko

    Controversial General Political Discussion

    Very easy to call "delusionnal" people whose rights are constantly attacked, from the confort of your home. Natives don't have to wait for the far right to arrive to suffer the wrath of post-colonialism. And they fight as they wish to fight.
  6. Logiko

    Controversial General Political Discussion

    Is that all I'm doing? No indeed. I agree. This is not motivating. This is why I'm trying to find a different way. Not that these things are not necessary, they are. But I believe there is a way to convince you and I'm trying to find it here. People don't say this things because saying these...
  7. Logiko

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    Technically, it could be very fast, even to a point where we transition before both our death. It doesn't require much. Simply people listening to leftist. Taking us seriousely. Looking at our ressources, being curious. Understanding that you guyz have a choice between: - No solution and you...
  8. Logiko

    Controversial General Political Discussion

    I'm not affirmating that there will be change today, or even in 10 or 50 years. If I had to gave you my personnal assesment on the moment we will enter a real socialist society at this pace, I would say between 100 and 1000 years (taking into account the fact that we are most likely about to...
  9. Logiko

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    This is really sad to see. And the saddest part in this is that you actually believe it to be a rationnal stance. More like the more the access to the paliative care, the lesser the need for suicide, for high end suffering, there are medications possible, even to high degree. yeah, google...
  10. Logiko

    Controversial General Political Discussion

    Baseless? You mean that you don't believe me when I say that I was like you once? It's funny indeed. Because I didn't always had this hope. The period I'm talking you about, I kinda lost it. And this is very telling. You vision doesn't rely on rationnality, it's relies on cynisism and...
  11. Logiko

    Controversial General Political Discussion

    :few: Or too patient. THese are not labels, just so you know. It's general assertions. A label would be me calling you a transphobe for ex. Nah, usually if I say "you don't understand" it's because I just gave you three pages of text to understand or, I'm about to give you a lot of...
  12. Logiko

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    Oh you hit my nerve for a lot less than that don't worry. I'm mostly getting tired of seeing myself in your reactions. There is no surprise and I feel like my past self is trying to tell me that I'm stupid. Which is lowkey irritating. Getting a complexe response to your questions is a hard...
  13. Logiko

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    I don't mind being contradicted. What is tiring is the constant out of context whining on the hurted feelings of the assemblee when they post themselve that kind of stuff:
  14. Logiko

    Controversial General Political Discussion

    Indeed. I debate, you complain. Usually it's the doctors that are responsible for the lack of information. So I don't blame women (i don't have a say in the way they use their body). I don't want to individualize the problem which is the system. I'm perfectly aware when I'm taunting you mate...
  15. Logiko

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    Politicisation is never easy or everyone would be a radical leftist. Do you think it was easy to understand what i'm trying to explain? Yeah. it's the leftism I belong to.. And I'm showing you that you are constantly criticize it. It's a fact. And SO WHAT? It's quite something, this viceral...
  16. Logiko

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    Ok. Fair. Let me hold that thoughts then, what do you mean by "being hateful" exactly? Nothing about what I said about you was proven wrong mate. Don't mistake me praising you for having a good base knowledge with me contradicting my point about your material interest or your lack of...
  17. Logiko

    Controversial General Political Discussion

    Like? (never heard the term "maximalist" in this context, wdym by that)? huh? :Shadow_Unimpressed: Can you be more specific please? Are you trying to say that I'm too radical or.. not radical enough? I don't get it, wdym?
  18. Logiko

    Controversial General Political Discussion

    I'm sorry but I do not reply to this type of injonction. You don't have a dumb masculinist in front of you, I don't have to come on top and I'm not here to "win" the debate even if I like it, I'm here to share my knowledge. If you stop seeing the debate as a battles like I did at the beginning...
  19. Logiko

    Controversial General Political Discussion

    I will accept your rethoric through critical thinking tool (like the burden of proof) when you will have proven to me that you are capable of accepting to have a critical thinking driven conversation. In the meantime, I have nothing to prove to you. Obviously. No don't worry, we oppose the...
  20. Logiko

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    In a peacefull society, I would agree. but we are under capitalism and we know that capitalism is fundamentally eugenistic. It pushes people out to the death. It's not just a fantazy, it's something we can already observe in Canada for ex. For the moment, Euthasia puts people in handicaped (not...
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