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it's very blur , the "Quality of leader" line is extremely debtable and you could find counter examples all over the place like Ace threw away his ambition to help Whitebeard's or Rayleigh didn't have an ambition at all and so on TL;dr : if Oda wants to give someone CoC he will give them CoC ...

Literally in my first paragraph i said it's approximative ... and i don't underestimate anyone , i don't know how you can call a character that we haven't even seen the design of underrated

tbh I never intended to the discussion to become "Marines in general + their history" , that's why I put 3 votes ... But I simply wanted to match the TOP 8 of the CURRENT marines vs other TOP 8 of either previous or current Crews and when you put it that way it's not that far off ( cause it's...

are we reading the same manga ? Usopp is the most setup to have it Out of all the SH , you can see the moment how he unlocks it the most cause that's a big part of CoC like Ace saving Luffy or Doffy getting tortured or Luffy saving Margaret at Elbaf or at some point he has to realize his...

Obviously if it were to miltary strength CP0 or RA wouldn't even be on the list , I just wanted to compare the top fighters vs the top fighters but yeah I agree overall as an org the Marine are clear cut best Just wanted to round out the SH cause I already talked about this in another thread...

- Rayleigh has nothing more as a leader over Zoro , he was literally a chilling citizen that wouldn't even be a fighter without Roger or did we forget that ? - Boa Hancock was literally a slave , no leadership ambitions til she got strong enough to be put as Kuja captain - Kozuki Oden ...

Wanted to see people's thought on who are the strongest groups either Pirate Crews or Orgs in One Piece history so made this poll/discussion ... feel like in this arc we had a lot of reveals on old Crews so this is pretty exciting to see I took the top 8 fighters from each crew and excluded any...

we literally have 15 confirmed and maybe 15~ almost confirmed characters out of 1000s of named characters in OP just because we're in the New World and the strongest are here and it feels frequent to encounter one compared to before doesn't mean it's not unique anymore we will see , my bet...

idk how u can call the crew , the main crew of the future Pirate King fodder/low tier characters ... and again I said i believed this at one point that all of them should have it cause they are the most special people with the most amibtious dreams joining together , it's not just Luffy and that...

I remember when first reading about Conqueror Haki a while ago , I really believed at the time that every single StrawHat will have it by the end of the series cause the crew of the pirate King and the main characters of the series will be truly special by the end And in hindsight comparing...

it's not about Kuina , idk how you read a 900+ chapter manga and not come at the same conclusion that Oda simply refuse to make a men fight/hurt a woman Oda literally has a character that's centered around that in Sanji but in reality in 90% of the time everyone ain't fighting girls ... that's...

there's no real reason , all the BBP that are OG aka not from Impel down are a wash to me ... Burgess and Auger came in first so i put them also it looked nice to put Auger in front of Usopp as snipers the only thing we know he's commander of the 4th ship

She is chill , the SH needs her strength cause rn they are really underpowered as a crew Nami will not and will never fight someone that's strong enough to be a level 6 Impel down criminal , like i get it ppl wanna matchups and things that are "parralel'd" but so far in this story there's...

made a list recently on how top 8 of each powerhouse crew in the world would look like and for me the Blackbeard original 5 are so much weaker than the ones he got from Impel down which gave him the auto boost to be an Emperor these lineups makes the most sense matchup wise and portrayal wise

I'm fine with that , like yea without any hesitation (if we count the marines as a crew) the StrawHats are potentially the 6th strongest power in the world right now and they are far ahead the other Supernovas but at the same time feel far weaker than the Yonko's it's ok if u assume that in...

Feel like the SH are over that point to be compared with the Supernova they are clear cut above all of them and with the context that we are in the Four Yonko Saga (and Luffy is literally called the 5th Emperor) and matchups like Zoro/Sanji vs King/Queen and whatever else like Usopp/Nami vs...

So Wanted to talk about this for a while but with Oda saying that One Piece is ending in 5~ years in our time which would be very soon in OP time (like few months or a year at best) , I can't help but feel the StrawHats' level of strength is really underwhelming and we would need another...

am i missing smth ? since when Zoro isn't Vice Captain ?

yep same , idc what kind of humour this is supposed to be ... it's a big no from me (Especially when you put in context that for Momo his Father died few weeks ago)

i think u missed the point it's a troll post about Buggy being the son of Xebec but not just that i also think Xebec is dead so if we will ever see him it would be in a flashback of Kaido and if it's in chapter 1000 that would be really hype