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Because you conflate socialist policies with socialism as a whole, yet don’t do the same with capitalism. you don’t see a flaw here? 1767655386 Yes because in a Marxist world view a small gas station owner is oppressing their employees.

They were mostly interchangeable until Leninism took off

and you don’t have to be exploitative to implement a capitalist policy… yet here you are saying capitalist unfettered leads to suffering while socialist doesn’t? 1767654386 Wait, do you think only rich people own business? You understand what I meant by private property right? Anyways you said...

To suffer under socialism you don’t need an incompetent or authoritarian regime. You let it run wild like capitalism and eventually you’re in whatever utopia Lenin wanted. Except in the real word you’re dirt poor and starving

You realize, literally what we’ve been saying it’s here? This literally tells you that it’s for the abolishment of capital and private property lmao. How exactly does one get there? Oh yeah authoritarianism it’s not a bug, it’s a feature. Unfettered socialism just ends finishing in a poor...

Just your definition for example I am for A national health service Progressive taxes, specially on the rich Strong workers rights Regulations Government stake in energy industries what would you call me 1767653024 I’m talking about previous murder of capital owners in societies that...

Okay, let’s start anew. What is socialism to you?

If when you think of socialism all you think is “welfare” and regulations then yeah, you do think of that. You don’t have to outright state it

Marxist-lenism necessitates a one part rule and so does maoism, authoritarianism is a feature of it not something different. China actually only improved their economy after opening up their markets to the west, aka “capitalizing”. Do you attribute that to capitalism as well? I don’t associate...

What do you call the killing of capital owners?

Socialist love their no true Scotsman fallacy when you suffer under socialism is because of anything but socialism got it if this is true show me a non suffering socialist society

You live in a black and white world, it’s either hyper capitalism or communism. Really no inbetween lol

They exist in 4chan arguing about age of consent

In order to for libertarian marxism to work you need to convince people to become socialist…aka what I said lmao brother I don’t know what to tell you, time only moves forward. Using pre-neolithical societies to push for your economic system is like me using the great Roman Empire to push for...

Feudalism reigns supreme, now go back to fields peasant

Libertarian Marxism aka let’s hope everybody becomes a socialist in order for our society to work? Honestly anything tied to libertarian principles is dumb

Looks like he’s still alive

Yet there’s literally calls for the shah in recent protest? it’s not supposed to be rational. When people are living like shit they just want a better living condition. Many ascribe that to the times of the Shah also religion is cringe. Nobody cares about that shit

You’re underestimated what nostalgia does to people

I’ve seen plenty of videos of Iranians calling for the shah it’s just a matter of nostalgia, they associate the “good” times with the former regime @TheAncientGorosei :risisweat: