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the only reson why People downplay how strong the contact is, is because Loki destroyed Harald like that and People dont want the new gen to be that strong. Loki is much stronger than any person of the old gen, thats why Peoples scaling of Haralds boost is off. they think "oh Garp+Roger was...

can we know all agree that the frozen Strawhead is not Joy Boys but actually the one of the ancient Giant that had Lokis fruit?

@MonochromeYoru what happend bro I thought no Ice attack?

you would be in chains if us german would have won WW2, you lucky

who says that he has a ymir devil fruit retard? Im saying Loki as a legend needs to have Ice ability because he is the son of Ice Giant, I never said Ymir fruit I said Ice abilitys. I even said before that the previous person that ate it was Oras and thats why he was found in the Ice continent...

I told you all Loki has ice abilitys, it was obvious based on Ymir

Im not, Luffy within 3 years will become God lvl character compared to Imu and stronger than Joy Boy. Shanks just became stronger than Roger which compared to God lvl characters is weak

not it means base 16 year old Loki>base 40-50 year olds Xebec/Harald/WB/Roger

yes thats what im saying that Mihawk trained him before that

Kinda reminds me of the Ice witch in re:zero

"only 3 year" Luffy and Crew start to finish will take less than 3 years to destroy a WG that ruled the world for 1000 years... this argument makes no sense. you get stronger with fighting, Rayleight straight up said you cant train your coc you get stronger when you yourself get stronger. Mihawk...

he was Top Tier but did not fight Mihawk yet, there is a insane strength gap between this shanks and future shanks. Mihawk is the one that brought him to that lvl.

why you sneaking Kaido and Big Mom in like that? Big mom literally wanted to suck Lokis dick so she can beat all the other Yonkos. Kaido lost to just awakend Luffy the same way Harald lost to just getting his devil fruit Loki. the only Yonko you can say surpassed the old legends is Shanks...

Loki just Kinda stomped Harald? like what even is this, biggest stomp between Top Tiers I ever seen. like look at this shit and then Harald vs Rocks, how strong is Loki?

hard for people to understand, but its actually a bit worst. loki who just went extreme diff with his weapon exausted and mentally nerfed is stronger than Shanks&Gaban together. I start to think Lokis "free me and I will beat any Crew you want" was no Joke he was dead serious that he can do it

the way of thinking for some People is weird, Oda makes clear cut statments all around and they perfectly makes sense. the only thing thats stoping People believing what was said is that they cant imagin that character xyz could be actually that strong. Harald kind implied last chapter already...

"nothing special about it" like yeh thats why only 2 People done it. your argument there falls already apart. "databook scaling" my man I only use Manga Databooks are frauds. relationship with the wilder, thats why Garps is not Black even tho he had the closed relationship to a Sword we ever...

I think Oda not showing how Loki looks is just ass, like we are chapter 1170 let it go

my bad G, actually this upscales Gorosei to completely new lvls. we might see the biggest Powercreep in One Piece, it actually might get as bad as Nartuo.

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