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How do you know they can't use haki? the proof of that?, Is it because they didn't use it in this chapter?, Kizaru himself didn't even bother to use basic haki throughout the chapter, and used the clones to throw off Luffy, we're talking about Luffy, clearly some clones weren't going to be able...

☝☝ All I need to see.

:seriously: Again, "physics doesn't work" doesn't apply to a fictional world bro,I think you have problems recognizing the meaning of "Fictional". I don't want to spend more time with someone who takes a fictional world as something similar to reality, The thing is that even in real life...

I think that kick seemed to go at the speed of light because it's simply Kizaru's style and that's how Oda draws him but I highly doubt that Kizaru hit her with real force, literally 5 seconds before he told her that he didn't want to hurt her, Kizaru hit Luffy so hard that he immediately...

Talking about physics, and following its laws in a world where one man generates lava, the other carries an island, Kizaru moves at the speed of light (which is already impossible in real life), a guy stretch, another brings meteorites to earth that travel hundreds of thousands or millions of...

Nahh Bro are you serious?, haha this is a world of fiction, Kizaru, moving at the speed of light already breaks the rules because no object with mass can reach 100% of the speed of light, but I repeat, FICTION, you are really bringing the logic to OP? to One Piece?!! That in a fictional world...

All I'm saying is that if CG had existed in the pre time skip, all the admirals had their respective 3 crowns, and we know who is superior between Akainu and Kizaru/Kuzan, that's just how the reward system works, Greenbull and above all Fujitora has to show a lot if they want to be on the same...

You make good points, but I still believe that it is not the time for him to lose, the rewards are not very relevant as I said, because the Cross Guild gives rewards for titles, regardless of who is stronger, therefore all admirals have the same rewards (3 crowns), the only exception It's Garp...

I'm not going to lie, extreme diff either is my current opinion but I keep repeating that I don't see the point in Kizaru losing, at this moment Kizaru is the 2nd most powerful marine, unless Oda comes up with the "brilliant" idea to forcefully introduce a new admiral at this point, a mistake...

I don't think the battle has a clear conclusion, meaning one of them losing, obviously it doesn't make sense for Luffy to lose whether or not he's stronger than Kizaru, but Kizaru losing in a transition arc? Oda is clearly giving prominence to the navy, now that we are entering the final saga...

Kizaru looks spectacular in this chapter, in 2 panels he made the most versatile Gear 4 obsolete, and that kick:steef: ... and it is already confirmed that Kizaru knows about the G5 and still went against Luffy without fear.