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  1. Celestial D. Dragon

    Break Week Calling All Clowns, Please Pick Up Your Noses

    That doesn't matter. If you can't beat someone at their peak, it's a hallow victory. Imagine if Frieza dropped back down to his first form when Goku went Super Saiyan for the first time, and then Goku demolishes him in a second. Would that prove Goku was stronger than Frieza? And Luffy...
  2. Celestial D. Dragon

    Break Week Calling All Clowns, Please Pick Up Your Noses

    You're missing the point of my post. What does beating base Luffy prove?
  3. Celestial D. Dragon

    Break Week Calling All Clowns, Please Pick Up Your Noses

    Lets use the Katakuri fight for example, and say it went completely different than it did. Katakuri never loses his composure to allow for Luffy to land a few powerful G4 attacks in the beginning of the fight, and keeps future sight for 11 hours. Luffy never runs away for a little bit to...
  4. Celestial D. Dragon

    Break Week Calling All Clowns, Please Pick Up Your Noses

    Winners aren't always determined by their strength alone. Anyone with half a functioning brain should understand this. Usopp is weaker than literally 99 percent of the people he's beaten. Outsmarting or tricking someone doesn't make you the stronger fighter.
  5. Celestial D. Dragon

    Break Week Calling All Clowns, Please Pick Up Your Noses

    If during that fight, boxer A takes a pill that makes him much stronger, but after 10 minutes, he loses all Stamina. Boxer B knows this, and purposely avoids him for 10 minutes. Is he the stronger fighter for that?
  6. Celestial D. Dragon

    Break Week Calling All Clowns, Please Pick Up Your Noses

    A drawback is still a nerf, and I'd you can't defeat the person when they are at their strongest, then you aren't stronger than them. If you have to wait!/stall till they exhaust themselves in order to win. You're not stronger than them. Period.
  7. Celestial D. Dragon

    Break Week Calling All Clowns, Please Pick Up Your Noses

    If Kizaru can't put Luffy down when he's in G5, that means he can't beat Luffy while he is at his strongest. That means Oda has to nerf Luffy for Kizaru to be able to beat him. This the Doffy scenario all over again, where people would get hyped cause Doflamingo theoretically would have won...
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