I was the point is, merely being able to generate create and manipulate an element makes a character a logia. It’s more than that as Vegapunk stated they become forces of nature themselves.
Katakuri has a logia like power like Marco; however, it’s not comparable to an actual logia. That’s why...
I’m just using the terminology that you use about him being able to generate, manipulate, and become flames.
And I thought you said you don’t need haki to hit a logia?
Kuzan isn’t representative of BBP, he’s just Kuzan and has infamy beyond merely being a Titanic Captain.
Just like Sabo has infamy beyond being a Revolutionary Army.
Zoro doesn’t have infamy beyond being a Straw Hat
Buggy is way less of a jobber. Buggy brings people over to his side to make them fight for him.
Drake just jobs alone and got beat up by every side in Wano.
Eh with Pluton returning in the story immediately before Crocs return I have high faith in it. Plus with Buggy’s god tier luck power, he’s sitting on the empty throne and bringing the others with him
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