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  1. Bil02

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 985 Spoilers Discussion

    How do we know that ?
  2. Bil02

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 985 Spoilers Discussion

    Ok and how do we know wb was wsm at that point when he tied Roger ? In the manga,it was never brought up so it is once again subject to interpretation. For all we know,wb became stronger after Roger's death even though i can't prove it so nothing necessarily shows Roger was stronger than wsm wb.
  3. Bil02

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 985 Spoilers Discussion

    So Roger having everything now translates to Roger being benchmark for strength in one piece ? I said there is no proof he was the strongest and that's what i'm arguing from the beggining when 1) we don't know when wb became wsm and how strong he was when he became it to say Roger was said to...
  4. Bil02

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 985 Spoilers Discussion

    Nope i agree but he has the title attached to prove it. Roger has no wsm title and being pk doesn't make you magically stronger than everyone as we saw with him saying he will be Pk when he reaches raftel in the Roger vs wb pirates fight. So yeah nothing indicates Roger was the strongest in the...
  5. Bil02

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 985 Spoilers Discussion

    Equal in what ? Was strength mentionned ? Roger was the benchmark for strength yet he never got any Big win under his belt despite fighting wb,Shiki,Garp. In the manga,he was also never called Co-wsm right ? So yeah nothing outside of the ordinary from a top tier imo. Indicating Mihawk knew how...
  6. Bil02

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 985 Spoilers Discussion

    The Databook says when Mihawk became the Wss ? Same with Wb's Wsm title ? If yes,when was it ? If no,then both Mihawk and Wb grew stronger in their categories to get those titles.. Until it is contradicted in the manga, that is all we need to know.
  7. Bil02

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 985 Spoilers Discussion

    Whitebeard has the Wsm title even though it is iffy when he got it but all Roger has for him strength wise is being able to tie with WB at one point. Nothing says Roger was the strongest nor does his feats do when he never beat any other top tier to begin with. Wb was also younger than Roger,so...
  8. Bil02

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 985 Spoilers Discussion

    Never said Mihawk grew stronger after their duels but One is noW known as the Wss and Shanks is not. So either 1) Shanks is not a swordsman but hakiman 2) Shanks is weaker than Mihawk as a swordsman We also know from Gyukimaru that Ryuuma was known as a sword God implying he was the strongest...
  9. Bil02

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 985 Spoilers Discussion

    Any proof Roger was stronger than Ryuuma ? Roger wasn't even once said to be the strongest pirate of his era let alone of the last 800 years. People caring or not about Wss doesn't mean it is reserved only for the weak lol. Did Kaidou,Bm,Shanks care about being emperors ? Nope they want to be Pk...
  10. Bil02

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 985 Spoilers Discussion

    Well do we know if Mihawk had his black blade at the time he was duelling 2arms Shanks ? Also kitetsu said depending on the swordsman,the blade might increase its grade right ? Indicating it is first and foremost a feat of the swordsman.Mihawk fighting with a regular blade shouldn't have a much...
  11. Bil02

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 985 Spoilers Discussion

    Any indication of Shanks,Rayleigh and Roger having better growth rate than Ryuuma ? Cuz aside from one's personal beleif, there is nothing indicating that. Wait at least till the concept of black blades is explained lol cuz right now,you seem to have already made up your mind about Roger...
  12. Bil02

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 985 Spoilers Discussion

    They are top tier swordsmen but did they reach the top in that category ? Nope Mihawk and Ryuma did. It may be a side quest for Zoro but as long as no person under top tier are revealed with a black blade, the hype from it stays growing. Luffy was trying to learn Projection Coa at the same time...
  13. Bil02

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 985 Spoilers Discussion

    Wait..Kaido took King's blade to slice Orochi's head ? That was savage.. I don't particularly like Orochi but can't understand why Kaido was being buddy with Orochi last chapter just to slice his head off with no impeding reason this chapter. Knowing Oda's track record,Orochi is probably alive...
  14. Bil02

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 985 Spoilers Discussion

    I warned his fans to not be surprised when the rescue plan they made up for him doesn't happen. I still think that he is going to meet X drake on his way.
  15. Bil02

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 985 Spoilers Discussion

    So luffy is going to Momo's rescue where all the big players are.. Wasn't it Sanji's presumed job to do? What is he doing then?
  16. Bil02

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 985 Spoilers Discussion

    Maybe because there is no build up with BM? Unlike Kaido which was hyped in one piece magazine and in Canon with Yasu.
  17. Bil02

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 985 Spoilers Discussion

    Tbh if these spoilers are true,then things are getting weirder and weirder by the minute.. Not too long ago,Kaido was telling Orochi to drink up and not to worry about the invasion, he also told his men to let pass Kanjuro as he was "Orochi's man". Kanjuro as a spy amongst the scabbards was the...
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