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And? Do you realize that Hakai almost killed Zoro from 2 seconds of impact, and broke 40 bones in his body? :seriously: You people act like he stopped the attack dead in its tracks and was perfectly fine. It almost killed him.

And Zoro needs Asura to accomplish that. Luffy doesn't even need G4 let alone G2 or G3 anymore.

Because Zoro blocked Hakai for 2.3 seconds is not a valid argument that he can trade blows with Kaido. Again..... Look at the King fight. Disarmed in seconds, by King using one arm, and this is by a guy who admires Kaido's strength.

And that is supposed to mean what exactly? Luffy went blow for blow with Kaido. Zoro, while having impressive moments against the guy, was not show to actually be capable of trading blows with him. That's just something you guys believe he can do, without any evidence suggesting it. The...

Zoro needed Asura just to last against Kaido for less than 5 seconds. He doesn't last even fraction as long as Luffy or Yamato without it.

And then how bout saying, "Zoro then goes off to fight King, and gets disarmed within the first 5 seconds of their encounter." You guys act like Zoro 1 v 1'd Kaido and Big Mom, by himself for 10 hours straight. Zoro is tough and can fight through excessive pain.... We get it. Zoro's...

So now that Zoro is pretty much all but confirmed to be a Shimotsuki, doesn't that give him an even greater reason to go after Orochi for Yasuies death? The two are related after all. Or are we still blaming Kaido for Orochi killing Yasuie?

I'm wondering who this guy is, because he appears to be a Shimotsuki also. He might have been the Daimyo before Ushimaru. This seems to be a meeting of the Daimyos.

It's possible. It'd be pretty cool if that was the case. Although it would raise the question as to why he didn't fight alongside Oden and the Scabbards when they went after Kaido. 1630621697 Was it Ushimaru, or Yasuie? Lol, I'll have to go back and check.

That would make him 50 (20 years ago), which would have made him 11 when Oden was born. I mean, I guess it's feasible, but from what we see, Ushimaru doesn't look to be in his 50s.

How old do you think Ushimaru was 20 years ago? In his 60's? Oden was 39 when he died 20 years ago.

Shimotsuki Kozaburo left Wano, found Dragon, and groomed him to be the leader of the Revolutionaries, because he knew about the Void Century all along? :noo:

That would be pretty insane if Luffy and Zoro were linked like that, like how him and Usopp were. Would be pretty cool if true, but I doubt it. Can't really see a reason why the Revos would head into Wano, when their soul focus is on the WG, and Wano isn't apart of them.

No one is saying Zoro isn't related to Ushimaru. And that seems to be correct, the third Sword was added by Zoro, which makes it his own unique style.

People guessed these things, without there being blaring hints in favor of them. People guessed Denjiro was Kyoshiro before we ever even saw Kyoshiro. People speculated every one of the Scabbards were the traitor, some were right, others were wrong. People guessed Kawamatsu was a multitude of...

Just going with the flow of the context of the story. Do I think it's absolutely impossible for Ushimaru to be Zoro's dad? Of course not. But highly improbable, given everything we know. You guys are acting like its set in stone, and there is no other option though, yet call me...

Get off you high horse kid. Don't jump into conversation when you have no clue what the fuck you are talking about.

It's not about being narrow minded. There is a lot of things I can look past, but there is one blaring situation in all of this that just doesn't seem remotely plausible, and that is how Zoro and his Mother sailed across the most dangerous sea in the World to end up in East Blue. We already...

That about the gist of your amazing deductive reasoning on how Ushimaru is Zoro's father?

And how exactly can Ushimaru be Zoro's father, when Zoro was born in East Blue, and he goes by the Surname Roronoa. And before you say "He took his mothers name", why would he do that? Ace had two reasons to not take his fathers name. Why would Zoro not take a proudful Samurai name like...