There is always potential for growth though. Especially now that he has a reason to want to get stronger.
Preskip he was able to stop Akainu's killshot, and he is the strongest Admiral, with the most potent devil fruit. He also took the brunt end of the attack that almost killed Luffy...
How so? Cause of his age? Urouge is older than Jinbei, and he became massively stronger than he was preskip, and he'll only get stronger before Oda brings him back into the story full force.
They got saved from a random box that Big Mom acquired months ago from Fishman Island, and had no clue there was a bomb attached to it, and two characters fought over it, causing it to fall and explode at the exact moment he was about to be killed, blowing the chateau in half, thus saving his...
And the situations are still different. Ichiji was utterly defeated and unconscious in that moment, and Big Mom said to commence the executions. The only thing that saved his life was the Tamate Box explosion.
That doesn't change the fact that he was utterly defeated by Katakuri in that moment. I don't even get what your trying to play at. Like him bouncing back and going on to get some shine later in the arc is suppose to negate that..... :choppawhat:
Of course he does. The whole point of the Wedding was to kill the Vinsmokes. But instead of having Big Mom and Katakuri kill Yonji, Niji, and Ichiji, he just had them beaten into submission.
That could be the case, but that is a massive retcon. It would be easier to explain that the one mysterious silhouette is young Jack, and the one that resembles Jack was his predecessor.
That wasn't really high level mastermind stuff she came up with. In fact it's something extremely simplistic that a child could devise. Pretend to want to be their ally, then betray them when they least expect it. And it was all for the sake of her own childish desire.
As far as being...
Here's the issue with that. Oda can't just make Big Mom all of a sudden out of the blue a competent character without her going through a drastic personality shift. So if those gag like moments all of a sudden stop, it breaks the flow of how she has been written from day one. Building upon...
Big Mom is extremely simple minded. Her flashback was centered around that fact. She can't be both simple minded and highly competent at the same time. This shit happens to Luffy all the time as well, for the same exact reason.
Marco is there for when Big Mom starts to take this shit serious. The Straw Hats are going to have their hands full with King and Queen, and Luffy is going to be going for Kaido. If nobody is there to keep Big Mom in check, it will not end well for the Straw Hats.
Funnily enough, O-Lin is much more competent than normal Big Mom. In all honesty, I think most of this stuff happening to Big Mom stems from the fact that since she rarely ever suffers any damage she never really has to keep a guard up. The only time she put up a guard was when fighting Kaido...
Nami is guarding the far left while Usopp is guarding the far right. They are the ones protecting the entire crew from any sneak attacks that can come from the side. The new Monster Duo has been highlighted. :steef:
People still refusing to accept that Jinbei is stronger than they imagine him. He's solid YC level. This is well within the confines of something his character should be capable of.
Well without more information/panels we don't have the context of what's going on. But from the vague information we do have, it seems like it was a giant setup to get an epic panel of the Straw Hats all standing together.
In this case it's neither an L or a W either. He set out to accomplish his goal which was rescuing Momonosuke. He took a big attack from King, and is now with the rest of the Straw Hats. Nobody failed in this situation.
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