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  1. Cinera

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1004 Spoilers Discussion

    What chapter is this? :choppawhat: It is not known that she's present on Onigashima though. I personally think it's more likely to be Toki, but I've not really found your arguments against Hiyori convincing.
  2. Cinera

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1004 Spoilers Discussion

    King is not pushing Zoro to extreme diff. Not even if Zoro only has to fight him with 2 swords: Homurasaki is an Ittoryu technique Zoro has several Ittoryu and Nitoryu techniques that could oneshot King Iai: Shishi Sonson Iai: Shi Shishi Sonson Iai: Rashomon A potential upgrade to Rashomon...
  3. Cinera

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1004 Spoilers Discussion

    How did Kanjuro know Hiyori's location? Unless I'm mistaken, she deliberately chose not to meet up with the Scabbards, so her whereabout shouldn't have been exposed to them? When was Orochi told Hiyori's location? Even if Hiyori was not present on Onigashima at the start of the Raid, she could...
  4. Cinera

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1004 Spoilers Discussion

    Hawkins hasn't really shown anything to decisively place them above the top Topi Roppo TBH. Apoo was able to hold off Hybrid Drake in CQC (and tank Kidd's Punk Rotten), so he can be given the benefit of the doubt. It was far more than 10%. Mama alone represents perhaps the majority of her...
  5. Cinera

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1004 Spoilers Discussion

    This will backfire so badly if Sanji ends up tag teaming a Calamity. You think it's Hiyori?
  6. Cinera

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1004 Spoilers Discussion

    Sanji was finally able to beat Black Tooth Sama. I'm so proud of him. :perocry: Not gonna lie, I'm really looking forward to the Robin rape doujin that comes from this statement. Yep, it's most likely Hiyori or Toki. I guess Otsuru is another option, but she looked nothing like her.
  7. Cinera

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1004 Spoilers Discussion

    @ivaannom could you please translate this?
  8. Cinera

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1004 Spoilers Discussion

    Robin is being setup as Maria's opponent. Maybe Robin intercepts Maria before she makes her way to the Treasure Room? She could have easily overheard King's instructions to Maria with her abilities. Sanji is getting another Khalifa moment. Nami's comments about needing stronger lightning may...
  9. Cinera

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1004 Spoilers Discussion

    Mystery #10 looks like a woman. This narrows down the potential candidates quite a bit: Hiyori Toki She looks a bit like Toki to me, but she's silhouetted, so her identity will remain hidden for a while longer. That her identity is hidden suggests that her reveal will be a big deal.
  10. Cinera

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1004 Spoilers Discussion

    Aah. Well, @Aknolagon disclosed that he just misread nik's statement.
  11. Cinera

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1004 Spoilers Discussion

    Panel(s)? I have no idea what you're talking about.
  12. Cinera

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1004 Spoilers Discussion

    "FTW" is just "for the win"? :choppawhat: Isn't Robin with CP 0? :choppawhat:
  13. Cinera

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1004 Spoilers Discussion

    It will greatly undermine Sanji's character if he complies with this. Nothing indicates Yamato is any weaker than Jack. Hell, there's a much stronger case that she's actually above him. Casually oneshot Ulti with a named technique while in Base Easily took out a Number with a named technique...
  14. Cinera

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1004 Spoilers Discussion

    Panel? I have no idea who you're talking about. Nah, it would still be shameful. The viewers may forgive Zoro because he's up against the strongest, but it will still be Zoro's greatest shame. Mihawk told him to treat even a nick in his blade as a blemish on his pride and forbade him from...
  15. Cinera

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1004 Spoilers Discussion

    Fighting styles regularly don't matchup. Sanji & Jimbe's fighting style didn't matchup with Wadatsumi. Zoro's fighting style didn't match up with Monet's Zoro's fighting style didn't match up with Pica's. Jimbe is currently fighting Who's Who anyway. CP 0's statements and the associated pan...
  16. Cinera

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1004 Spoilers Discussion

    Breaking Sandai would be a major failure of his training for Zoro, but Kaido is the strongest, so it wouldn't be surprising if Zoro simply failed against Kaido. If Kaido destroyed Zoro's Sandai, Hitetsu arming him with the Nidai seems plausible given what we know of his character.
  17. Cinera

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1004 Spoilers Discussion

    This implies that the battle gets suspended for maybe days, or requires extremely convoluted circumstances. Under non convoluted circumstances, Zoro will need to: Get his bearings wherever he got lost Meet up with Hitetsu Convince him to bequeath the Nidai Kitetu Test out the new sword Make...
  18. Cinera

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1004 Spoilers Discussion

    Yeah, I agree with Zoro leaving with 3 O Wazamono, I'm just not sure how he gets it before the Kaido fight is resolved (a round 2 seems pretty hard).
  19. Cinera

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1004 Spoilers Discussion

    Maybe Zoro gets Nidai after Wano ends. Sandai might get damaged in the fight, but Zoro continues the fight anyway. Zoro getting Nidai before Round 2 vs Kaido implies a timeskip, and just how? How does a timeskip happen at this point with the Supernova, Samurai and Wano civilians surviving? The...
  20. Cinera

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1004 Spoilers Discussion

    Oda is extremely bad at timelines. He reliably underestimates timelines. You can be confident that things will take longer than Oda says. Trying to take Oda's timelines at face value is very silly. I read Oda's message as showing what would happen to Sabo and co after Wano was over. This...
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