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I'm not saying Ray was WSS, I'm saying Ray was a swordsman stronger than Oden. Ray not being a swordsman is a laughable proposition and not worth entertaining, at all. Zoro has used his fists and feet much more than Ray. Oden was not the WSS, such would have already been said. He wasn't even...

Rayleigh is more firm;y established as a swordsman than Roger.

Wow, Drake really did him in huh. :wonderland: 1571331391 We don't know that Kaido has ever had a full fight with Shanks or Rayleigh.

The Dark King says hi.

Thanks.

@Tangerine could you please edit the OP with the available spoiler information? It would be nontrivial to trawl through the thread to find the spoilers.

Looks like Oden. I wonder who that is.