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Her fight with Kaido should do all of that and more. All of this just makes King the de facto Vice Captain. King will have COC if he's to be Zoro's opponent. If not, he may never show it. If Marco doesn't have COC and Marco defeats King, King probably wouldn't show COC.

I don't assume that King is stronger than Marco. King and Queen are both stronger than Jack. We don't know how they compare to each other. Marco is stronger than Katakuri who is stronger than King. No, that's not the heuristic I'm using. I'm only comparing Marco's bounty to King because King...

You think Marco isn't stronger than Queen? Marco should be decently stronger than Katakuri, and Queen has nothing to place him on Katakuri's level. No, that's not my conclusion. My conclusion is that King is stronger than Marco and Marco is closer to Queen than to King. I have the Marco -...

I'm not doubting Queen's resilience, but he doesn't actually have better feats than King. King took more powerful attacks from Marco and he's still kicking. Saying that because Queen is a durability specialist he should be more durable than King is like saying that because Sanji is a speed...

You expect King to be <= 1.4B no? Your expectations would be wrong, so you should reconsider your hypothesis. I don't have expectations as such. I have scenarios and opinions I'll adopt based on those scenarios. If King's bounty is closer to Queen than to Marco: Marco >> King > Queen >>> Jack...

Wow, my sarcasm detector's actually working. Yay me. What has Queen done to suggest he's more resilient than King? :choppawhat:

In fairness, I'm the biggest Yamato fanboy on the forum. Fuck you. Yamato made Oden's journal her Bible. If she has a mentor figure, it's Oden.

So I think of Doffy as a sort of father figure for Law. If you accept that then: Their father figures had high hopes and ambitions for them: Doffy wanted to make Law the next Corazon. Kaido wanted to make Yamato the Shogun. Both of them were trained by their father figures: Law by the Don...

Yamato wants to fight and beat Kaido by herself: None of the others wanted to. You keep pretending like Yamato doesn't actually want to beat her father, and that she'll just abandon her desire of hers. It can work. Kaido is an Awakened Mythical Zoan. It'll make sense if he stands up again due...

Yamato's relationship with Kaido is a near perfect analogue of Law's relationship with Doflamingo. Kyros/Rebecca did not have the same relationship with Doffy that Yamato does with Kaido.

No you did not. You presented random people she could fight. You did not present story reasons why she fights them. So if King's bounty is above 1.4B would you accept you're wrong? If King's bounty is under 1.4B I'll be that much more amenable to your position. Yep. I think it's a near...

Yamato doesn't believe Luffy can beat Kaido: What's going to make her change her mind? Like she knows Luffy went to fight Kaido and she doesn't think he can win by himself. Yamato growing up with Jack is still headcanon. The fight is not happening. Jimbe and Linlin do not have Yamato and...

And what reason is that. Why would she fight them? What is the story reason? Jimbe and Linlin do not have Yamato and Kaido's relationship. You've presented no compelling story reasons for your alternatives.

And why would Yamato follow such an order from Luffy? Yamato isn't fighting Kaido for Luffy? She doesn't even believe that Luffy can defeat Kaido: It would also be kind of tasteless for Luffy to interrupt her personal fight and tell her to deal with Jack. Like King vs Zoro, there's no story...

Yamato is going to go all out vs Kaido. If she gets another fight, she wouldn't show her best in it. Yamato will push Kaido to use his Hybrid form.

PM me. :yonjidoggy: What does fighting Jack do for Yamato's story after she loses to Kaido? Jack gets further nerfed by Inuarashi? I think it'll be a lame fight with no story benefit.

Aah, this is a bet I'm significantly less confident in, but okay. I'll bet on Yamato. I win of Kaido transforms into a Hybrid form (in case Kaido has more than one). You win if he doesn't. The bet will be called at the definitive end of Yamato vs Kaido.

Wait for King's bounty. If Queen's bounty is closer to King than to Jack, I'll agree that Queen is closer to King than to Jack. What's clear is that King and Queen are significantly stronger than Jack. King is stronger than Queen, but the gap is unknown. And nothing you mentioned tells us...

Avatar for a month. I win if Kaido transforms (into any of his DF forms) against Yamato. You win if he doesn't.

He thinks: Yamato is a Dire Wolf Yamato is comparable to or weaker than Jack Yamato's main fight is Jack He didn't believe that Yamato will fight Kaido either. He wants Yamato to be well weaker than Sanji and wanted her to not fight Kaido. He wants Yamato to be at a level where Kaido will...