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  1. Cinera

    ONE PIECE CHAPTER 1033: SHIMOTSUKI KOZABURO

    No: Borsalino is not actually lightspeed One Piece characters are faster than light Either of the above two would be consistent with Rayleigh/Marco blitzing/intercepting Borsalino. What is inconsistent is claiming that Borsalino is the fastest character when his feats don't show it. I agree...
  2. Cinera

    ONE PIECE CHAPTER 1033: SHIMOTSUKI KOZABURO

    I just repeated your argument at you but changed the subject from Marco to King. I find King's Imperial Archer very impressive speed wise. We have no comparison between the two, so I think it's fair to consider both of them speedsters. I think this argument is kind of silly. Imperial Archer —...
  3. Cinera

    ONE PIECE CHAPTER 1033: SHIMOTSUKI KOZABURO

    This is a contradiction. You can't both claim that Borsalino is the fastest character and that Marco blitzed him. Marco blitzing him debunks him being the fastest character. Borsalino's only fast attack was his lightspeed kicks and even then he was only able to blitz preskip Supernova...
  4. Cinera

    ONE PIECE CHAPTER 1033: SHIMOTSUKI KOZABURO

    Hybrid King is arguably faster and more agile than Marco IMO, see Imperial Archer: That said, they're obviously super similar in that regard. Not exactly: Marco's regeneration is consumed with every attack. King's regeneration is only consumed when an attack breaches his durability (like Shi...
  5. Cinera

    ONE PIECE CHAPTER 1033: SHIMOTSUKI KOZABURO

    Oda has the simple answer of just applying Haoshoku to Zoro's existing repertoire of attacks. For Sanji, maybe he unlocks Ryuo/blooms his hardening. We might see black flames when Sanji combines his fire with his haki. Marco kicked King around twice with two attacks that had no lasting effect...
  6. Cinera

    ONE PIECE CHAPTER 1033: SHIMOTSUKI KOZABURO

    Reread 1022 and 1023. Zoro was on par with King until he cracked King's mask. King never overwhelmed him before then. Actually, here are the panels of when they fought on par: Again, this is King after Zoro cracked his mask, he's just way more bloodlusted now: King had no sort of advantage...
  7. Cinera

    ONE PIECE CHAPTER 1033: SHIMOTSUKI KOZABURO

    I like Zoro more than King. And I like Yamato more than King. I wouldn't even call myself a King fan or say I particularly like him (he's an entertaining combatant, but that's about it). Nor do I wank King in order to wank Zoro (if anything it's the opposite, Zoro being so impressive on the...
  8. Cinera

    ONE PIECE CHAPTER 1033: SHIMOTSUKI KOZABURO

    A Queen that only used his Base and Zoan forms, and a casual King restricted to those same forms. The same casual King that Zoro fought on par with. Marco couldn't even defeat the version of King that Zoro fought on par with. Let alone the version of King that was molesting Zoro. Marco can't...
  9. Cinera

    ONE PIECE CHAPTER 1033: SHIMOTSUKI KOZABURO

    When he faces Mihawk. :goyea: Rengoku Oni Giri made King bleed way more than Marco. It's not something as simple as that. It's definitely connected to his fire though. Maybe Zoro eventually overcomes it with his fire cutting techniques.
  10. Cinera

    ONE PIECE CHAPTER 1033: SHIMOTSUKI KOZABURO

    I'm guessing it's a combination of: Zoan form durability His wings could block Tatsumaki Lunarian hax Fire healing/regeneration There was fire leaking from the cut Shi Shishi Sonson made. Fire rebirth He blew himself up in a massive explosion and came out unscathed. Damage absorption...
  11. Cinera

    ONE PIECE CHAPTER 1033: SHIMOTSUKI KOZABURO

    King > Zoro before Chapter 1033. If King can contend with Advanced Haoshoku Zoro, he'll be above Yamato as well.
  12. Cinera

    ONE PIECE CHAPTER 1033: SHIMOTSUKI KOZABURO

    How could you forget Hiryuu Kaen?
  13. Cinera

    ONE PIECE CHAPTER 1033: SHIMOTSUKI KOZABURO

    Wait for the Viz to drop before making inferences from such specific wording. It's possible that King was referring to Kaido. But if this happened, I'd fucking nut.
  14. Cinera

    ONE PIECE CHAPTER 1033: SHIMOTSUKI KOZABURO

    No he is not. Imperial Archer may be faster than Marco. We have no comparison between Marco and Hybrid King. Marco's regeneration gets exhausted pretty quickly. Marco fought Base/Zoan King and Queen. Queen had not used his Hybrid form, and King was very casual. Marco later fought a casual...
  15. Cinera

    ONE PIECE CHAPTER 1033: SHIMOTSUKI KOZABURO

    Zoro became stronger now through Enma. But prior to end of the chapter, Enma was a hindrance.
  16. Cinera

    ONE PIECE CHAPTER 1033: SHIMOTSUKI KOZABURO

    No, it doesn't change anything. Enma is called a cursed sword by others. Linlin saying it's no ordinary sword reinforces that. This chapter confirms that Enma wasn't powerful on its own. It's just temperamental. Oden's aura/presence wasn't present in the sword either.
  17. Cinera

    ONE PIECE CHAPTER 1033: SHIMOTSUKI KOZABURO

    As a combatant King is strictly superior to Marco. Similarities: Both possess flight and high mobility. Both can regenerate and/or heal themselves with attacks. Differences: Fire Marco's fire heals others. King's fire hurts others. King's advantages: Durability His wings are harder...
  18. Cinera

    ONE PIECE CHAPTER 1033: SHIMOTSUKI KOZABURO

    Wait for the Viz before making inferences from such specific verbiage. King may have been referring to Kaido. That said, I would love it if King is also capable of Haoshoku coating. A Zoro and King Haoshoku clash could make the Zoro vs King fight preferable to Zoro having tag teamed Kaido with...
  19. Cinera

    ONE PIECE CHAPTER 1033: SHIMOTSUKI KOZABURO

    Correction, it's "very strongest": :goyea:
  20. Cinera

    ONE PIECE CHAPTER 1033: SHIMOTSUKI KOZABURO

    I do in fact prefer that Orochi survived to this point so that Hiyori can have closure.
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